My trades based on "new way of pivot trading" and vwap

Dear Friends
Last year dear Rjshem Sir came in my trading life..During learning pivot method, I hve come across some Rjshem sirs charts & learnt some setups from his charts..I am & will be always greatful to him for his kind help ..those 2-3 charts had changed my whole concept of trading..all 3 years hard work had started making sense..
1) RJshem Sir gave me the seed of idea...& I grew whole tree out of it...I am not following it completelly but yes that give me the idea how to make setups & how to trade price action with objectivity..God has sent me the RJshem sir in my trading life & it changed altogether..no words can express my deep & warm gratitude to him..I will be always greatful to this kind & successful trader forever in my life.
2) what mistke i was doing, I realized..I was a perfectionsist in my studies & in my job..& i was doing same in trading..I was discarding every method due to some imperfection..then I enlightned & got holy grail ?what was my holy grail??
50 % success & 1:2 reward of any setup..whether its belongs to price action or indicator..now many methods of indicator which I discrded in my previous journey started becoming useful..I dont mind if only coin flipping has fulfilled thar criteria, I can also include in my setup
so lesson -1 no perfection in trading, only probabilities..dont make youe method perfect..no method is perfect..dont try to mke it perfect..if it is 50 % time right, you will be profitable
2) I was doing 18 hours hard work.. & I was thinking hours of my hardwork is directly proprtional to my profit..but its not the case..though hardwork is very necesseary in trading...but market doesnt care about your hardwork..it will not give you money just beacause your hardwork..you need just some setups, prctise them & execute them flawlessly
3) I used to follow avny's thread ...i learnt 'master one trick"..we are habitual to our education system & think if we know much, we do better..its not applied in trading..here its better, if you know less..if you apply all method or so many tricks, it would be hard to be profitable.."master one trick" & practise that one trick 10 thousand times & apply it continuously ..it would be boring but profitable..we are in market to earn profit not for excitement
4) Guys! who are still struggling, I suggest..just go through some rjshem sir's chart..just choose 1 setup ..any 1 setup..learn it throughly..& choose any 5 scrips of your choice...take only this 1 setup & take trades only when this setups comes in those 5 scrips..pull out any month & take trades..if you are in loss, discard it...but this will not happen
5) market is a war..our opponent are strong..we can only win this war to be with them only..dont be rigid...fight with THEM, not against them..
6) 1 mistke I had done...I tried to catch each & every move..i tried to trade daily...dont do that..if you are able to catch just 1-2 moves in a day, its enough to make you rich ...if you are able to catch 2-3 good days in a month, it can take care of your monthly expenses( provided your position size is big)
7) learn from everybody but follow what suits you & your psychology..every person risk appetiteis diffrent so choose trading style which suits your personality & risk appetite..as I am a very big risk taker..in markets rewards depends upon your risk..I came in a very danger rating when it comes to taking risks but I can not suggest this to everybody..every trader has a very different risk tendency..Trader SOROS who make bank of england bankrupt in one of his famous trade..he put so much on stake on that trade ..not every trader has that much strength & risk appetite
8) dont start trading with low capital..for back testing or forward testing, you can use small position sizing for learning..but if you want to do it Full time & fulfill your expenditure from it...please start with good capital..5-10 lack is minimum..& employ this capital only when you have got good & consistent profit in last 6 monthes with low capital
9) dont apply or learn method just because some trader is profitable ..everybody is diffrent..everybody's personality, risk appetite, intelligence & condition is different..learn & practise which suits you
10) practise, practise & practise...books can help you to learn basics..but it couldnt teach you trading..this will only charts teach you..what 100 of books cannot teach me ..1 chart of rjshem sir taught me..so back test your setup with sufiicient time of historical data...watch 1000 of charts..learn first 1 setup..practise it...watch 1000 of charts of this 1 setup..trade it on 1 scrip..then trade it on 5 scrips..then on more scrips...till then you are continuously successful with this setup...& then only add new setups..
11) start with small capital & then increase your capital..if you cant earn money with small capital, you cannot earn big with large capital
enough for now
all the best
thanks
 
Last edited:
niftytaurus bro,

If you don't mind, please share what made you so confident enough in trading that you quit your job to do it?

Wishing you the very best to recover your health soon and achieve your goals in trading.
Dear Wisp Bro
I Did not quit job because I wanted to do trading.
I was working in media industry..there are so many things you have to do to be in top of that industry..your talents or education doesnot matters..I always want to be in top whatever I do..its my personality..I am a very over ambitious person..& besides I am a rebel person..I dont follow norms ...I thought I am not doing The things for which I have joined that industry..so I quit one fine day..not because I wanted to do trading or I had something better to do than my job..i quit job because I was not enjoying what I was doing..So I just write an email & quit the job..I did not know what to do next..
I just knew I wanted to do something of my own..I thought of so many businesses..but every business needs all those qualities which corporate slavery also required..I dont have those qualities like good PR, ego massging etc etc..so I know I cant do that..I had to start everything from scratch so trading was a businees which fulfilled my requirements because here my talents & hardwork pays..I dont need to please Any boss, collegues, customer etc etc..
but yes! I can understand not everybody can do it....I am kind of a sanki & pagal kind of person according to social norms..
a) I never ever follow any social norms..or I never follow bhed chal( just follow blindlessly) to anything...I did graduate in science..when my all friends did masters in science..I took risk & did finance..everybody told that I would be failed ..I did Top in university..I did Doctorate in financial management..when all my university mates joined job in some banks,financial institutions...I joined a filmmaking school..again people told me you are taking a very big risk with your career..I did well in film school..when My friends were on big designtions on banks & financial institutions..I was struggling in mumbai for a small job..I did struggled a lot..people said I would fail..again I proved them wrong..I got successful & beat them in salaries whatever They are getting in their finance jobs..
When I quit, I was about on TOP..but I quit because I dont want to do job..I quit..then again people said, you would fail..share market means disaster..you would fail..but again I am earning my bread from share market..so I always took very big risks with my life, career & money..but I take full responsibility & consequences of my actions
2) If you watch , 3 idiots..I am kind of Ranccho..I beileive in excellence & success will follow in any field..I do what I love & enjoy...I will fulfill my goal in trading & then I will again pursue my next goal..Next one is become a film Producer
3) when you dont follow social norms, you have to sacrifice..if you want to follow your rules & against society, you have to sacrifice..example : imagine how much money I would have earned If I would be in tht job..4 year salary, job security, Job status, social status all I sacrificed for my own rules
4)when you quit job & start something new like trading...ofcourse! you have to put something aside for your monthly expenditure..so I didnt jump from a cliff without any precaution..I had savings which can take care of my monthly expenditures..but yes I have to sacrifice on that front also..because savings now used to take care of monthly expenditures..you are not earning anything & you are spending your savings..its difficult...but You have to choose
5) another sacrifice is I cant do expenditures lavishly like I used to do when I was in job..I had to make many compromises..Now I ride in cabs, I dont have driver..I dont buy new phone models every six monthes..I dont buy very expensive clothes, I dont buy foreign perfumes & watches too often.. ..I dont eat in expensive restaurant daily as I used to be..etc etc
so what !!! It doesnt matter..But I live a very comfortable & good life..I have all what is needed to be survived..for me survival is good food..comfortable clothes , books, movies, travel which all are taken care of ..thats is survival for me ...for people ,I am not fit in those social norms & financial standard .
one funny incident is one of my friend came from abroad..I picked up her in a cab..she didt know about it..she thought I had a shauffer driven car..I told her its a Cab..not my own car..& she asked with sympathy"what happened? are you not doing well? " so may be from people & social standard, I have become poor...ha ha ha..& I replied her, next time , when you will visit India, I will invest in your start up & buy big stake in your company but I will come in Cab only to pick you up !!
so guys! nothing is impossible! you just need to break all norms & choose your priorities...for someone buying BMW is priority , for me producing a film which transforms people lives is priority..I also want to earn money..all the money ..huge money..limitless money..but I dont want to buy big cars, big jets or big houses..nothing wrong with it which does that...but its all about priorityies,,but my priority is to spend those money on well being of people on this earth..I want to spend those on others..for me, I have enough for survival..but for people, survival defination is diffrent..
sorry a long answer for a simple question..but need to explain meaning of money also..money is related to trading..money should be coming effortlessly..wealth is "LAXMI" in our tradition ..laxmi has only 3 ways"DAN,KHARCH & NAASH" MEANS wealth has only 3 uses, either charity, spending or third one is it will be finished..
so Spend, use or give money wisely..
Thanks to listening me
 

wisp

Well-Known Member
Dear Wisp Bro
I Did not quit job because I wanted to do trading.
I was working in media industry..there are so many things you have to do to be in top of that industry..your talents or education doesnot matters..I always want to be in top whatever I do..its my personality..I am a very over ambitious person..& besides I am a rebel person..I dont follow norms ...I thought I am not doing The things for which I have joined that industry..so I quit one fine day..not because I wanted to do trading or I had something better to do than my job..i quit job because I was not enjoying what I was doing..So I just write an email & quit the job..I did not know what to do next..
I just knew I wanted to do something of my own..I thought of so many businesses..but every business needs all those qualities which corporate slavery also required..I dont have those qualities like good PR, ego massging etc etc..so I know I cant do that..I had to start everything from scratch so trading was a businees which fulfilled my requirements because here my talents & hardwork pays..I dont need to please Any boss, collegues, customer etc etc..
but yes! I can understand not everybody can do it....I am kind of a sanki & pagal kind of person according to social norms..
a) I never ever follow any social norms..or I never follow bhed chal( just follow blindlessly) to anything...I did graduate in science..when my all friends did masters in science..I took risk & did finance..everybody told that I would be failed ..I did Top in university..I did Doctorate in financial management..when all my university mates joined job in some banks,financial institutions...I joined a filmmaking school..again people told me you are taking a very big risk with your career..I did well in film school..when My friends were on big designtions on banks & financial institutions..I was struggling in mumbai for a small job..I did struggled a lot..people said I would fail..again I proved them wrong..I got successful & beat them in salaries whatever They are getting in their finance jobs..
When I quit, I was about on TOP..but I quit because I dont want to do job..I quit..then again people said, you would fail..share market means disaster..you would fail..but again I am earning my bread from share market..so I always took very big risks with my life, career & money..but I take full responsibility & consequences of my actions
2) If you watch , 3 idiots..I am kind of Ranccho..I beileive in excellence & success will follow in any field..I do what I love & enjoy...I will fulfill my goal in trading & then I will again pursue my next goal..Next one is become a film Producer
3) when you dont follow social norms, you have to sacrifice..if you want to follow your rules & against society, you have to sacrifice..example : imagine how much money I would have earned If I would be in tht job..4 year salary, job security, Job status, social status all I sacrificed for my own rules
4)when you quit job & start something new like trading...ofcourse! you have to put something aside for your monthly expenditure..so I didnt jump from a cliff without any precaution..I had savings which can take care of my monthly expenditures..but yes I have to sacrifice on that front also..because savings now used to take care of monthly expenditures..you are not earning anything & you are spending your savings..its difficult...but You have to choose
5) another sacrifice is I cant do expenditures lavishly like I used to do when I was in job..I had to make many compromises..Now I ride in cabs, I dont have driver..I dont buy new phone models every six monthes..I dont buy very expensive clothes, I dont buy foreign perfumes & watches too often.. ..I dont eat in expensive restaurant daily as I used to be..etc etc
so what !!! It doesnt matter..But I live a very comfortable & good life..I have all what is needed to be survived..for me survival is good food..comfortable clothes , books, movies, travel which all are taken care of ..thats is survival for me ...for people ,I am not fit in those social norms & financial standard .
one funny incident is one of my friend came from abroad..I picked up her in a cab..she didt know about it..she thought I had a shauffer driven car..I told her its a Cab..not my own car..& she asked with sympathy"what happened? are you not doing well? " so may be from people & social standard, I have become poor...ha ha ha..& I replied her, next time , when you will visit India, I will invest in your start up & buy big stake in your company but I will come in Cab only to pick you up !!
so guys! nothing is impossible! you just need to break all norms & choose your priorities...for someone buying BMW is priority , for me producing a film which transforms people lives is priority..I also want to earn money..all the money ..huge money..limitless money..but I dont want to buy big cars, big jets or big houses..nothing wrong with it which does that...but its all about priorityies,,but my priority is to spend those money on well being of people on this earth..I want to spend those on others..for me, I have enough for survival..but for people, survival defination is diffrent..
sorry a long answer for a simple question..but need to explain meaning of money also..money is related to trading..money should be coming effortlessly..wealth is "LAXMI" in our tradition ..laxmi has only 3 ways"DAN,KHARCH & NAASH" MEANS wealth has only 3 uses, either charity, spending or third one is it will be finished..
so Spend, use or give money wisely..
Thanks to listening me
Hats off! You sound like a very principled human being!


 

vijkris

Learner and Follower
@NT bro, quite an inspiring post of yours. :clapping:

I am down with minor illness since 1 week, hence not posting anything in TJ.

Hope to be active from Tuesday onwards.

Yes practicing one or two setups only initially will reduce the confusion of people.

Regarding Obv, hope you understood the system. Seeing varun ji's thread with no posts, I can safely assume that it was extremely complicated. :D

(I have very little experience in TJ. For Vwap old thread I was just a guest with no posts, but my real participation was in Subhadip sir's new pivot thread.
As far as I remember, I met u, vivekbhai and all others there only.
There were lot of days when Subhadip sir used to post only at nights.. but all others were actively participating in it unlike varun ji's thread. :( )

If you found anything useful in obv concept and if u r willing then pls do share. :thumb:

I will most probably start Tukka Analysis/trading . Fed up with so many systems. :D
But will remember your advice, that we should focus on one setup only. thanks. :clap:
 

vijkris

Learner and Follower
Are you serious? :eek::eek:
You are already a market wizard. :clapping:

That video basically said about 3 stages of traders. 3rd stage is when ppl focus more on making more profits during trending days, and keep losses to minimum in non trending days.

All system hoppers are 1st stage traders.
 

Similar threads