NIFTY 50 future TRENDS

[anup0212]

Anup if you are new and don't know how i trade let me inform you I TRADE ONLY MINI NIFTY ONE OR TWO LOTS. my entry and SL most of the time very close my buy price.. may be 15/20 points i don't take risk more than 1000/1200 per trade.
Trading option mostly i avoid.. but some times one or two lots for intra day
please trade with your own risk taking ability and use this forum for to gain knowledge..... surely not for trading purpose.
I think you will take this bit of advice in correct sense.

Mano ji...I do most of the time option and I do understand that to use this thread as to gain knowledge not for trading purpose...Anyway appreciate your concern...

 

[dashr]

20 points discount in NF!!!

Discount stands at 22.55 at this stage.
Does this discourage any traders to short NIFTY with almost only a week to go for expiry?

 

[EagleOne]

Mano ji...I do most of the time option and I do understand that to use this thread as to gain knowledge not for trading purpose...Anyway appreciate your concern...

I told you yesterday what would happen to your 'darling' option. But you felt bad. That means, you can't handle the bitter truths of trading. God, I wish some 'EagleOne' should have been there to slap me when I was living in hopes of reversal last year! But I got soothsayers, instead. Sab theek ho jaayega, hold on! :lol:

Understand this. If you hold on to ATM, OTM options like this, one day you won't be left with any option to trade, samjhe, bhiddu?! Bura lage toh meri bala se.

Bye bye fir milte hain.

 

[rahul701]

Not true margin required is equivalent to fut. profit ltd loss unltd. They hedge with futures.... And once mkt goes against u, u trapped with more risky hedges... Not a game for small retail

Dont think I m taking shots at u , but as everyone here knows I m really active at slashing the posts which dont seem to make sense.
For quite sometime I m writing options and from the very start of the game i was fascinated with this options thing, specially the index one.
So Here it goes......

What do u mean by unlimited loss to limited profit as regards to unlimited loss as regards to option writing? Obviously here i m not talking abt foolish naked option writing as correctly pointed out by eagle. So here what u mean by unlimited loss.
And i didnt got ur "Technical type " second point? RISKY hedges ?

Thirdly "I m damn - *****D " whenever anyone uses this word RETAIL.It looks as if someone is hitting me on my head with a GOLD plated shoe.I mean what is this retail so highlighted whenever anyone looses money? Is retail money different? Is retail loss different ? Is retail profit different? If u earn 50% on 10,000Rs and I make 50% on 10 Lakh does this mean that I play superior to u bcoz i made 5Lakh profit and u only 5000?

And u r talking abt writing options in last 10/15 days is safe? Do u know what u r saying? Dude dont give such kind of childish advice to newbies here. They mite think that u being 3 yrs senior to them r advising sthg good.

U will be cleaned in 2 days of 2% Nifty move? Do u know how much 1% of Nifty move moves options in last 2 weeks? Have u ever played options? Or r u a regular equity player?

 

[sudoku1]

NF trend DOWN


tgt > 4666

 

[rahul701]

Now who wants to sell ?? I'm buying.

So timepass did u enjoyed banking on others brains? Start using ur own brain else ..... I hope u were just joking and not bought anything just bcoz CNBC majority said it was sell.
Dude if mkt can be perfect just by going opposite those people, then these smart guys wud know that and they wud make u fool by telling u the right thing and u thinking it as wrong wud do opposite the right which is wrong. I hope this right wrong thing was not a puzzle in itself

 

[prabhsingh]

Is there any thread avaialble on TJ which can explain how to make use of Options for hedging purpose?How can we trade Future and Options side by side with some real nifty index or stock examples?

 

[timepass]

So timepass did u enjoyed banking on others brains? Start using ur own brain else ..... I hope u were just joking and not bought anything just bcoz CNBC majority said it was sell.
Dude if mkt can be perfect just by going opposite those people, then these smart guys wud know that and they wud make u fool by telling u the right thing and u thinking it as wrong wud do opposite the right which is wrong. I hope this right wrong thing was not a puzzle in itself

Hey, I do use my brains, but my tactics don't seem to have found favor here . I get out at 50ps-1rs. in nifty options. I bought @54.55, sold @55.25

 

[4209211]

i am afraid bro and i wish iit could happen i have a reason for it not to happen will post after mkt

hi to all here is the reason for the above reply in the images

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[rahul701]

Dear Smart_trade , OK u might be a Good trader , but ....

Correctly Said :

1) If one is selling nifty options and trying to protect by taking a position in futures, one looses lots of points in " protecting " the option positions.....so by end of the month one does not make more than 100-120 points max.....but one is open to lots of risk.....gaps, global markets......

Again Well said:

2) Option trades DO NEED STOPS....it is not that we write and ferget....they also need close monitoring.

I STRONGLY DIASAGREE with u on this:

3) The protecting options by futures works great in theory....but in practice and markets volatility.......not easy....and in case of sudden gaps you end up having options and futures both bleeding you......my experience : I used to trade huge quantity in selling options ( straddles ) but very rarely I could make more than 60-70 points .....not worh all the hassles.....much better off with futures....
But learning is continuous....I am willing and eager to learn better ways of selling options....
Smart_trade

I will tell u an important difference about the scenarios in writing options OR trading futures.
Rewrite ur options once they loose good value, so if a 100Rs option becomes 40Rs Rewrite an 100Rs option. Bcoz 40Rs option will approximately hold almost same margin as 100Rs option,so if 40 becomes 20 it wont be much beneficial to u as it wud be 100 becoming 50.
Option writing sides u along with the KING of options ie DECAY, when u write options u can still be quite safe when mkt goes little against u.

For those talking abt unlimited loss, some advice :

OPTION WRITING is just another form of BUYING FUTURES i will explain u this : Only condition REWRITE and u will be along the DECAY KING
OPTION WRITING is equivallent to FUTURES in view of RISK profile.
Risk profile of option writing IS always same as buyig futures, u pay the same margin and u r entitled to same amt of loss too. SO DONT ever believe those stupid analysts on TV who on one side say new traders shud not write option but on the other hand say buy futures. THEY R fools bought by TV, they dont know what they r saying.

Yes option writing entitles u to a little less profit as against futures but then they put u along with the decay king as i explained earlier. And also they r the only intrument in the world which entitles u to gain money even when wrong.

One biggest secret of gaining by writing options is REWRITING of options and dont keep junk with u. So if 100Rs wrtoe option gets to 30Rs rewrite it down.

And anyone wanting to clear ny doubts regarding option WRITING can post them and i will clear them as much as i can
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