NIFTY Options Trading by RAJ

How do you use OAT tool?

  • For Intraday Naked Options trading

    Votes: 58 37.7%
  • For Intraday Pair trading of Options

    Votes: 27 17.5%
  • For Intraday Futures trading

    Votes: 18 11.7%
  • For Positional Naked Options trading

    Votes: 35 22.7%
  • For Positional Pair trading of options

    Votes: 29 18.8%
  • For Positional Futures trading

    Votes: 11 7.1%
  • To trade in Cash market

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Overall trading has improved with OAT

    Votes: 27 17.5%
  • Understanding of Options has improved with OAT

    Votes: 57 37.0%

  • Total voters
    154
  • Poll closed .

bunti_k23

Well-Known Member
I have Lill bit confusion/doubt .
1 - I see the strength of trend mentioning by u guys , strong bull, weak bull, strong bear ,weak bear.is this observation comes by series or it is random , clearly dependent upon option chain? I mean after strong bull there comes weak bull or it is not like that.

2 - i have read somewhere in forum itself that by TA 1 can find the levels of support and resistances but options data can determine whether the levels will hold or not .is this true ?

3 - how to interprete the OAT tool for positionl naked trading(directional) .is this explained in earlier posts .then pls post the link to it.

Thanks for bearing my noob questions:lol:
 

angira

Well-Known Member
Today 6-Jan as per OptionData

NIFTY:-

Trend Strong Bear
MAX_OI @ 8000-8600
MAX_CHG_OI @ 8200-8300

FEB'15 series:

Trend Weak Bull
MAX_OI @ 8000-9000
MAX_CHG_OI @ 7900-8700

angira...
 
Hi Angira/Raj,

Please let me know your personal email ID-
I have few questions related to intraday & positional which have to get clarification from you.
since thread is too big now,difficult to go thru each page and being busy in office work, not getting much time to ready each page.

Kindly share your email id's

Thanks in advance
Regards
Vijay.
 

angira

Well-Known Member
Hi Angira/Raj,

Please let me know your personal email ID-
I have few questions related to intraday & positional which have to get clarification from you.
since thread is too big now,difficult to go thru each page and being busy in office work, not getting much time to ready each page.

Kindly share your email id's

Thanks in advance
Regards
Vijay.
First Read All the Rules which have Raj posted here strating of this thread then post your query here or
PM to Raj for more clarification. Using of Email is opposite of forum rules.

angira...
 
Do you ascertain the trend from options data (OI , MAX OI) or something else ?
Hi Singlap

Your question is not to clear in what direction you want to have it answered. Let me start with the following:

For daily trading on one script or a little few: The trend you better check on the chart on different time frames (Bigger to smaller) to have an idea about what the overall trend is. Then go to your time frame you trade and check the trend there.

Now on the bigger time frame you simple draw your horizontal lines where you see any support or resistance (Pivot lows or tops and levels where the line touches the most points on one level). This line you will also see in the chart with smaller time frames. After that you check the OI on the matrix and you have an idea how strong or weak those levels are. You even can draw the S and R levels through math tools and then compare the OI with those levels. So the OI helps more to have a better idea about ranges in the chart include S and R levels and less about what the whole trend is or further could be. If you understand it this way, you already do well with the use of OI.

Probably not the answer to what you expected to your not clear question to come out as answer. Why? If you can tell me or prove in a clear way to know who are the people who are responsible for any increase or decrease in OI on any strike level, then we have an other ground to discuss on. A ground for "Want to be anticipaters of the market". But kindly tell me: Do you know if this are shorter who move the OI up and down or are those buyers who move that OI up and down on those specific levels at any time?

So to me here is the crux in your question for using OI in daily trading to predict market directions. As I have not found any such proved ways which work at all the time to be clear who those responsible people are, I changed to what I just showed how to use OI on a daily basic most effective and not much for anticipation. Others have other ideas and I am sure they will post it. If you did not ask in those direction of using OI for such kind of trading, then you should have told this clearly in your post, as the question can direct in different ways. Any way: I will also spot a bit in an other direction:

Now here a little add to the above posted: As this is done on a daily basic, I any way will see if there is a very special event on any of the watched OI levels. It can happen that of a sudden in one of them a huge new position is token. So according to the existing trend or to other observations it can give us a clue from time to time that some thing is going to happen in a certain direction. But this is not the daily business and if you want to move on those road, then you best do watch many, many different scripts day by day to be aware of such specific events in all of them. Best to this is with a software who scans the whole market for such events (Such software is used at the CME to scan all thousand and thousand of traded option strike levels on any underlying to find out such events) or you take your time day by day, search all your scripts for such events and only trade them. A very specific way of option trading. Now my question: Did you point in this specific direction and if so, why did you not post it? If you start to move this way, then let's know how you are doing and good luck to you. :)

Take care / Dan :)

Edit: Adding a lot of information.
 
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hi Somatung
can u explain it with a chart?

thanks
Hi

It is absolute simple: Open your chart, draw the support and resistance lines you feel are good for what ever reason or use the math to draw them. Now open the option matrix to this underlying and check the OI on the strike levels you have in your chart. http://i62.tinypic.com/6rj8er.png (Here I took quickly a chart from XRAY and then painted the levels I saw and then I went to your Nifty option matrix and compared the OI on all the lines I draw. No science or what ever behind, just use your eyes and common sense :))

If you have a lot of OI on any of those levels you choosed in the chart, then you know those levels are strong and it needs power to break them. You have to have a certain understanding for a chart and for OI and in case you do not have this understanding, then train your self by doing it on many different script to train your skills to become better in it. That's it.

Take care / Dan :)
 

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