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[Vertigo_1985]

Was just kidding Dear.:lol:

Ok serious question, You said, you are following 100% system & you made money simply by that. But I am not following any system, any signals even but still i make good money, so indirectly i am fighting with your system.
I think, if you have such system then what would happen if everyone leave their trades to that system. Who will earn then? So I am confused to know such 100% profitable system without any manual intervention.
Can you share your system to everyone?

There would be no movement in markets if everyone followed same system.

For discussion sake lets suppose you 2 trade, lets consider following scenarios :-
1. You 2 trade different scrips, so you 2 are not competing directly.
2. You 2 trade same scrips but different methods, not very likely to directly compete .
3. You 2 trade same scrip, same method If there is sufficient liquidity then you 2 shouldn't have any issue else it may lead to fight for entries and exits, affecting profitability of the system. If sufficient number of people trade this system then it's profitability for some may even become negative or null and thus leading to change or tweak of the system.

 

[TraderRavi]

Was just kidding Dear.:lol:

Ok serious question, You said, you are following 100% system & you made money simply by that. But I am not following any system, any signals even but still i make good money, so indirectly i am fighting with your system.
I think, if you have such system then what would happen if everyone leave their trades to that system. Who will earn then? So I am confused to know such 100% profitable system without any manual intervention.
Can you share your system to everyone?

following a system means u r following a set of rules instead of random entries , it does not mean ur system is 100% winner , no system can be 100% winner, in fact most are around 55: 45, or may be 60: 40.

 

[TraderRavi]

Calm down, These questions are not baseless, That's why they were devised and are used in professional finance in the first place. Opportunity cost and time cost are variables used in valuation models. Using them for personal benefit is not such a bad thing. Surely if he recovered his money from the market and he is a winner. But it would benefit him to see how much it cost him to become a winner in the first place. What was the true cost of making profit in the market. THAT is the whole point of these answers. Otherwise if no one cared than there would be no finance academia.

another way to find true cost could be calculate return of every month's losses as 8% fixed deposit. say somebody lost 25000 in jan 2010 , now wat this amount has become had it been deposited as fixed deposit etc......

 

[Mr.G]

another way to find true cost could be calculate return of every month's losses as 8% fixed deposit. say somebody lost 25000 in jan 2010 , now wat this amount has become had it been deposited as fixed deposit etc......

I sometimes laugh when people invest so much money into fixed deposits. Equity investing is so much damn better! 8% Muhuahahahahaha....... :rofl:

 

[stock72]

following a system means u r following a set of rules instead of random entries , it does not mean ur system is 100% winner , no system can be 100% winner, in fact most are around 55: 45, or may be 60: 40.

And the system iam following giving back tested result 70:30 . But in real time it so far gave 85%

 

[stock72]

another way to find true cost could be calculate return of every month's losses as 8% fixed deposit. say somebody lost 25000 in jan 2010 , now wat this amount has become had it been deposited as fixed deposit etc......

In other words if we consider market as a bank and the money we lost as deposit then, as the money given to market over a period of time instead as single lot , we can safely calculate the money lost in eight years shall be double by now .
In that sense I need to pull another 46 from market to ensure I got the so called interest that suppose to be with me if I had put these in bank . I need to pull back 4 crore if I calculate the value of money, if the same had been put in real estate . Off course for stress and pain I underwent which is the very Curial factor here and for that I need to pull a minimum 40 crore AND certainly get that!!!!

 

[TradeJoker]

I sometimes laugh when people invest so much money into fixed deposits. Equity investing is so much damn better! 8% Muhuahahahahaha....... :rofl:

do you want my suzlon "worth" 40k for Rs.4k (90% rebate) :annoyed:

 

[Trader_PK]

And the system iam following giving back tested result 70:30 . But in real time it so far gave 85%

what is the system man?..Is it intraday or positional?....in which timeframe it is?

 

[TradeJoker]

yes 100% true, these are hypothetical arguments/discussions. not good for a trader's psychology

In other words if we consider market as a bank and the money we lost as deposit then, as the money given to market over a period of time instead as single lot , we can safely calculate the money lost in eight years shall be double by now .
In that sense I need to pull another 46 from market to ensure I got the so called interest that suppose to be with me if I had put these in bank . I need to pull back 4 crore if I calculate the value of money, if the same had been put in real estate . Off course for stress and pain I underwent which is the very Curial factor here and for that I need to pull a minimum 40 crore AND certainly get that!!!!

 

[stock72]

what is the system man?..Is it intraday or positional?....in which timeframe it is?

It is positional ..to me intraday (day trading ) is some thing that does not exist in reality ... It like darkness which in fact doesn't exist on its own .. Darkness is nothing but absence of light .. There is no such thing called day trading