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rinv said:
Hi,
I have been passively following this wonderful thread. I wanted to know from fellow friends how can one do day trading on icicidirect ? I feel that we cannot buy and sell during the same day. Can anyone enlighten me on the same ?

Thanks,
Raj
Hi,
Welcome to this wonderful thread!
yes u can do day trading in icicidirect, it is called margin trading
Here there is one thread for intraday trading wherin some of esteemed members like Supratik etc give their tips for same.
For a Demo you can give to customer service link in icicidirect.com and see some demos for same for marging trading.


Madhura :)
 
saint,
doctor you are 10% successful in curing my crying heart. I will read your letter again and again till it enters and settles down corectly into my head, just now I read it with my heart & a few drops fell off my eyes without my permision. You believe I could make it big.... thats a little inspiring..somewhere someone unknown is believing me and saying I will make it big one day if I follow some strategy and discipline.. then why not I re-start beliving in myself. usha give it a try!

Usha
 
garun1979 said:
Hi Usha,



Cheer up..cos unless you been to the deepest of the vallies, you would never know hw pleasant it is on the peaks.

Regards
Gaurav
Hi gaurav,
Very well said friend. waiting for the day to know how pleasant is it on the peaks. Thank you very much,
Usha
 
Come on Usha. Pull yourself together. There are no losers here. Do you think Amit, Saint....me too are winning all the time? Losing is part of winning. The sum is important. On the way you lose some, you win some. As you learn & get more confident & proficient in trading you will win more than you lose. That's the name of the game in trading. AND, you seem to have missed one of the cardinal rules of this game....CUT YOUR LOSSES & LET THE PROFITS RUN.

Jaideep,
Thanks for your concern. It was nice to know that all traders go through these stages. But friend as you said CUT YOUR LOSSES AND LET THE PROFITS RUN this is what I donot understand. How do you stop the losses ?When you have to come out of the trade...how to decide?
usha
 
Hi Amit,
I would like to bring to notice 2 good picks..
1.Aztek software--CMP-154...Good ascending trend with no resistance on graph...results also good...breakout there
2.Dabur India-CMP-166-good ascending trend---good quarterly results also..
ready to breakout and continue it's trend

I have recently taken a clal in
3.Rajasthan Spinning(Good ascending trend)-but resistance at 137 levels....good financial results...i took at 128 level
4.Abhishek Industries--Q2 profit expected-106%--near to breakout the resistance---took at 36.50

Madhura
 
usha said:
hi amit,
I am soo depressed now that I cannot even thank you the way I should have to. My broker sold my tata chemicals futures since I was in debit of around 20000/-(M to M) which I wanted to pay by cheque todays evening, causing me a loss of Rs.15000/- Regarding escorts at the moment it is showing support at 88,but still I am down Rs.30000/- I think I am not fit to trade and I donot think so I am intelligent enough to trade. (I should dump my university Rank certificates) Thanks you remember my ICICI query. In that trade also I took just 1/4th of profit in a hurry(or fear to loose even that) Now I am waiting sitting on huge losses. Exactly opposite of what experts guide us. That is the reason I am saying I am not (yet, perhaps) fit to trade. Thanks amit for your prompt reply, bye,
usha
Dear Usha,

Time always changes. And better time do come in each ones life. Many friends of this forum had already given you some wonderful piece of advice. What more to say. I am not an expert. I suggest that if you are not knowing the art of doing derivative trading, avoid it. First learn and master the basics of derivative trading. You can go for Position Trading for short, medium and long term with selected bluechip companies. There are various old posts in this forum which will enlighten you and broaden your knowledge. Love to hear from you soon when you start making profit.

cheers,
nkpanjiyar
 
....But friend as you said CUT YOUR LOSSES AND LET THE PROFITS RUN this is what I donot understand. How do you stop the losses ?When you have to come out of the trade...how to decide?
usha[/QUOTE]




Plenty has been said on this topic Usha, all very wise ones at that. Try & go through the earlier posts. They will educate you no end on your exit strategy etc. Meanwhile, I'll give you something to read on the topic & put you in the know of things. After all, I'm no expert TA myself.... ;)

A Stop-loss Order is an order placed with your broker to buy or sell once the stock reaches a certain price. A stop-loss is designed to limit an investor's loss on a security position. Setting a stop-loss order for 10% below the price at which you bought the stock will limit your loss to 10%. For example, let's say you just purchased SAIL at Rs.50 per share. Right after buying the stock you enter a stop-loss order for $45. This means that if the stock falls below
Rs.45,your shares will then be sold at the prevailing market price.

Positives and Negatives

The advantage of a stop order is you don't have to monitor on a daily basis how a stock is performing. This is especially when some other commitments prevents you from monitoring your stocks for any period of time.

The disadvantage is that the stop price could be activated by a short-term fluctuation in a stock's price. The key is picking a stop-loss percentage that allows a stock to fluctuate day to day while preventing as much downside risk as possible. Setting a 5% stop loss on a stock that has a history of fluctuating 10% or more in a week is not the best strategy: you'll most likely just lose money on the brokerage you'll pay for execution of your orders.

There are no hard and fast rules for the level at which stops should be placed. This totally depends on your individual investing style: an active trader might use 5% while a long-term investor might choose 15% or more.
Another thing to keep in mind is that once your stop price is reached, your stop order becomes a market order and the price at which you sell may be much different from the stop price. This is especially true in a fast-moving market where stock prices can change rapidly.

Not Just for Preventing Losses

Stop-loss orders are traditionally thought of as a way to prevent losses, thus the name. Another use of this tool, though, is to lock in profits, in which case it is sometimes referred to as a "trailing stop". Here, the stop-loss order is set at a percentage level below not the price at which you bought it but the current market price. The price of the stop loss adjusts as the stock price fluctuates. Remember, if a stock goes up, what you have is an unrealized gain, which means you don't have the cash in hand until you sell. Using a trailing stop allows you to let profits run while at the same time guaranteeing at least some realized capital gain.

Continuing with our SAIL example from above, say you set a trailing stop order for 10% below the current price, and the stock skyrockets to Rs.80 within a month. Your trailing-stop order would then lock in at Rs.72 per share (Rs.80 - (10% x Rs.80) = Rs.72). This is the worst price you would receive, so even if the stock takes an unexpected dip, you won't be in the red.


Advantages of the Stop-Loss Order

First of all, the beauty of the stop-loss order is that it costs nothing to implement. Your regular brokerage is charged only once the stop-loss price has been reached and the stock must be sold. It's like a free insurance policy!

Secondly, but most importantly, a stop loss allows decision making to be free from any emotional influences. People tend to fall in love with stocks, believing that if they give a stock another chance, it will come around. This causes procrastination and delay, giving the stock yet another chance and then yet another. In the meantime, the losses mount....

No matter what type of investor you are, you should know why you own a stock. A value investor's criteria will be different from that of a growth investor, which will be different still from an active trader. Any one strategy may work, but only if you stick to the strategy. This also means that if you are a hardcore buy-and-hold investor, your stop-loss orders are next to useless.

The point here is to be confident in your strategy and carry through with your plan. Stop-loss orders can help you stay on track without clouding your judgment with emotion.

Finally, it's important to realize that stop-loss orders do not guarantee you'll make money in the stock market; you still have to make intelligent investment decisions. If you don't, you'll lose just as much money as you would without a stop loss, only at a much slower rate.

Conclusion

A stop-loss order is such a simple little tool, yet so many investors fail to use it. Whether to prevent excessive losses or to lock in profits, nearly all investing styles can benefit from this trade. Think of a stop loss as an insurance policy: you hope you never have to use it, but it's good to know you have the protection should you need it.

HAPPY TRADING & LOADS OF PATIENCE, you'll need all this to laugh all the way to the Bank (as Saint said). Best of Luck.
 
hi!

I am new one but in market for around 2 periods. I also have one to share, not for trading but holding. Have you people checked out Biocon, it bottomed out at 400 and now moving up in a trendline waiting for breakout and probably target again is 500+. I think it is moving up now and will be a good short-term investment. What u people think.
 
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