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Amit,

I am attaching the chart of Vivimed with my analysis. Just correct me if am going wrong.

I drew a long ascending triangle for it. If we calculate the distance it is coming out to be around 100-120 rupees.

Can we see any upside of another 100+ from the current levels in VIVIMED?

its just my analysis and i might be wrong also.

Oh my Goodness, looks like, I can't attach the chart in a Private Message, so had to post it here...

Regards
Satya
 

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Satya,
Thanks for the comments.And for data i just took it so in future I can check some history if need be.Can u tell me whether any tool is pallning or modification to DE to etract indexdata?
And for chart:-
I just poinnted the arrow to indicate the lowering of peaks of MCAD -Histograms (march to April).Considering, that time price and MCAD lines goes up.Is it a divergence?
"A divergence occurs when the trend of price highs and lows goes one way and the trend of tops and bottoms in MACD-Histogram goes the opposite way. Those patterns take several weeks or even more than a month to develop on the daily charts."
regards
JN
 

shrinivas

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AMITBE said:
Ganesh!

Aur ek tum ho...kitne hansmukh! :)
Thanks for all the humour....a tad roguish at time....but I love it! :D

There was no call to exit Elder. There's more to come.

No...Indiabulls is high now...regardless of what happens with the issues pulling it down, the risk is greater at these levels. It's come up a long way.
Wait for a pullback.
The market is yet again up there, and it may yet again fall back. A clear direction is not coming up.

Good luck.
Thanxx..will enter elder again at lower rates....

ganeshhity
 

AMITBE

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jntrade said:
Hi Amit,
I attached a graph of polaris with histogram at the bottom.
I marked an area far right with an arrow.
When prices go up Histogram declines and says it is Bearish divergence and it is strong signal.Is it that shows in the chart?
thanks
JN
Hi JN...do go to this link and see the post there and the attached chart. You may have seen it already, but do have another look: http://www.traderji.com/41774-post3472.html

If you've read the post, then first thing first, do remember, MACD is a trend following indicator.
MACD is not a reliable indicator where price action is flip-flop.
I'm saying flip-flop to basically describe a descending triangle, which from the long term chart of Polaris can be clearly seen.
There is no real energy, meaning momentum, in such a long term descending triangle.
MACD is also indicative of the rate of change in momentum in the slow and fast EMAs. These EMAs are the basic building blocks of MACD.
In the descending triangle, note how MACD spends most of its time below the zero line. It manages to keep above this line in very brief periods.
One more aspect to remember while taking MACD readings is the significance of the centerline crossover.
This will depend on the previous movement of price and MACD.
If MACD along with trending price is positive for a good period of time, and then begins to slope down to cross sub-zero territory, it would be considered that the price trend has turned decisively bearish.
However, if MACD has been negative for a few months, breaks above zero and then back below zero, it may be seen as more of a sideways correction. Obviously, lower highs are being made while the bottom line is being held, as is the case with the descending triangle in Polaris. There are no clear, sustained and robust crossovers there.

For all of the above reasons, dont go looking at MACD in such a chart.

On to MACD Histograms.

What MACD does is, it measures the difference between the two EMAs, usually 12 and 26 EMAs. Usually, a 9 EMA of MACD is plotted along side to act as a trigger line.
A positive MACD indicates that the 12 EMA is above the 26 EMA, and vice versa when MACD is negative. The signal line crossover is the trigger.
However MACD crossover is a lagging indicator and misses important moves.
So the Histogram was developed by someone whose name I dont remember, and can often forecast oncoming MACD/signal line crossovers.
It is normally plotted as a complementary indicator within the MACD window.
It represents the difference between MACD and the 9 day EMA of MACD, meaning the signal line.
Not to be confused here.
The signal line, usually a 9 day EMA of MACD is separately plotted along with MACD.
The Histogram is plotting the difference between MACD and the 9 day EMA of MACD.
In a sense then, the Histogram is an indicator of an indicator.
Again, divergences between MACD and the Histogram are used to anticipate MACD/signal line crossovers.
A positive divergence in the Histogram indicates that MACD is strengthening and could be on the verge of a bullish crossover.
A negative divergence in the Histogram indicates that MACD is weakening.

Notice in Roltas chart the various red trendlines.
At trendline A, the Histogram is already showing a negative divergence, while the MACD/signal line are still climbing. These turn around later. So here the Histogram has given a negative divergence for MACD well in advance of its crossover, and also before the actual price reversal.
At trendline B, the Histogram has given a positive divergence well before the MACD and the price reversal.
Trendlines XXX best describe how the Histogram better and earlier indicates the moves in MACD.
Same with trendline C, the negative divergence in the Histogram precedes the MACD divergence.
Divergence at trendline D is still panning out.

Thats it JN.
Get back when you like.
 

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Hi Amit,

This makes sense. So when the distance between MACD and signal line is decreasing as seen above the first trendline u have drawn, the histogram is more visible and leads or we may say is faster than the MACD and the signal line.

Now why I am confused is on BSE they only draw histogram and a signal line and till 5 minutes back( till I read your thread) I always thought that is MACD. So basically I was mistaken. Now I know what is a Histogram but what I did not undertsand is what signal line they draw on the histogram or is it a 9 day EMA of the histogram. Will that be so.

And If histogram leads why use MACD and not just histogram. Is there a benefit of seeing both.

Regards

Rahul
 
Hi Amit,

I think I have a good find. I have been following ankur drugs for quite sometime and even saint has helped me with it (Thanks Saint). See there was a window at 145 levels which made it a potential support. it moved up quite rapidly and then formed a bearish engulfing pattern and started its down ward movement. it formed a doji with a harami pattern which would mean a change in existing trend. the doji itself had higher low and highs. then it formed a hammer ( in a downtrend)and the body of the hammer stayed above the support level of 145. today its formed another hammer.

Also the histogram according to me is showing a +ve divergence( Its a very small divergence so I am not sure if it would valid). also its just moved above the centre zero line and the signal line is crossing it. And if my above understanding of the histogram was correct even that is bullish. This might be a good stock to enter into.


Regards

Rahul
 
Hi Amit,
Thank U for your detailed and easy to understand replay, as u always do!
For some days I was in some busy,configuring my software.As U said evenif I saw the earlier postings, i was not looked into that in detail.
And now some questions :-
1.what are the conditions/parameters U look when picking a stock?
2.Is Japanese candlestick readings are similer to these indicators?Do we have to consider them too?
3.When we are waiting for a pull back to enter near Ema for a Value trade stocks do not come !!.Foreign authors may be considering Us like markets, is there any special view for this great bull market,considering our settlement time too?
Once again thanks and regards
JN
 
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AMITBE

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srisara said:
Amit,

I am attaching the chart of Vivimed with my analysis. Just correct me if am going wrong.

I drew a long ascending triangle for it. If we calculate the distance it is coming out to be around 100-120 rupees.

Can we see any upside of another 100+ from the current levels in VIVIMED?

its just my analysis and i might be wrong also.

Oh my Goodness, looks like, I can't attach the chart in a Private Message, so had to post it here...

Regards
Satya

Hi Satya, this was the original post on Vivimed:


AMITBE said:
Another nice example of a Bull Flag is occuring on VIVIMED LABS which can be seen on the enclosed chart.
It closed at 222 with a three fold increase in volume compared to the previous three bars.
If you use the calculations on the Bull Flag theory, the effective breakout on the 'flagpole' happened at 165 and the top of the pole is 246.
So, should the formation play out fully which is quite likely, you are looking at a target price of 305 or so.

Further, the chart bears a resemblence to another bullish formation: The Cup&Handle. Here the right side rim of the cup levels out the left rim at 205, the bar just before the long bar at 246, which is close enough. The rest of the bars seem to be forming the handle.

This can be bought climbing above 225-228 with stop at 200, with a first target of 252-255-258-261-264-270.
The chart posted then is here:
http://www.traderji.com/attachments/equities/1006-some-good-steals-vivimed-labs.jpg?d=1139762035

I'm posting the latest chart here and the levels calculated for potential targets are given on it.
The effective breakout happened at 165 and the steep climb went up till 246.
The balance of the two is 81.
Breaking above 246, theoretically, 81 would be added to 246 to arrive at the target of 327. (I have incorrectly written 305 in above post)

As for the Bull Flag, the flag-pole itself has now been dwarfed by the length of the flag. It went sideways for too long.
As for the C&H, the handle is now almost half the size of the cup, horizontally.
Theoretically again, both the formations stand negated.

This may or may not influence the targeted price immediately.
But Vivimed certainly looks good for an upside.

At this point it look more like an ascending triangle breakout in progress. (Black Trendlines)
If so, then a first target of 275 should be set.
The lowest point in the ascending triangle is about 195. The upper trendline is at 235. The balance of 40 would be added to 235 to give 275.

All the best Satya.

By the way, your message box is full.
 

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AMITBE said:
Hi Satya, this was the original post on Vivimed:

By the way, your message box is full.
Amit,

Variably or invariably, I learn new things everyday from your posts (whenever we interact). I feel like asking more and more. My apetite is growing much.

Thanks very much for your detailed analysis.

Also, I cleaned up my mailbox.

Satya
 
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AMITBE

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rahulg77 said:
Hi Amit,

This makes sense. So when the distance between MACD and signal line is decreasing as seen above the first trendline u have drawn, the histogram is more visible and leads or we may say is faster than the MACD and the signal line.

Now why I am confused is on BSE they only draw histogram and a signal line and till 5 minutes back( till I read your thread) I always thought that is MACD. So basically I was mistaken. Now I know what is a Histogram but what I did not undertsand is what signal line they draw on the histogram or is it a 9 day EMA of the histogram. Will that be so.

And If histogram leads why use MACD and not just histogram. Is there a benefit of seeing both.

Regards

Rahul
Hi Rahul, on BSE site it's actually MACD that looks like a histogram, and the line is the signal line which by default is set to 9 EMA. This can be changed to make it faster or slower. MACD settings are set at 12-26 and cannot be changed I believe. So there's no histogram there, the kind we've been discussing.

As to your query: And If histogram leads why use MACD and not just histogram. Is there a benefit of seeing both.

May I suggest you look at both the recent posts on MACD/Histogram and come back with a reply to your issue. Just as an exercise to try and figure out.

The posts are here:
http://www.traderji.com/41774-post3472.html
http://www.traderji.com/42124-post3518.html

By the way, how's the course in TA going? Do tell us.
 
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