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[GuluGulu]

History's Mysteries

Have A History Teacher Explain This....If They Can...

Abraham Lincoln Was Elected To Congress In 1846.
John F. Kennedy Was Elected To Congress In 1946.

Abraham Lincoln Was Elected President In 1860.
John F.. Kennedy Was Elected President In 1960.

Both Were Particularly Concerned With Civil Rights.
Both Wives Lost Their Children While Living In The White House.

Both Presidents Were Shot On A Friday.
Both Presidents Were Shot In The Head

Now It Gets Really Weird.


Lincoln 's Secretary Was Named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary Was Named Lincoln .

Both Were Assassinated By Southerners.
Both Were Succeeded By Southerners Named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, Who Succeeded Lincoln, Was Born In 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, Who Succeeded Kennedy, Was Born In 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, Who Assassinated Lincoln, Was Born In 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, Who Assassinated Kennedy, Was Born In 1939.

Both Assassins Were Known By Their Three Names.
Both Names Are Composed Of Fifteen Letters.

Now Hang On To Your Seat.

Lincoln Was Shot At The Theater Named 'Ford'.
Kennedy Was Shot In A Car Called ' Lincoln ' Made by 'Ford'.

Lincoln Was Shot In A Theater & His Assassin Ran & Hid In A Warehouse.
Kennedy Was Shot From A Warehouse & His Assassin Ran & Hid In A Theater.

Booth and Oswald Were Assassinated Before Their Trials....


SavantGarde

Great Find Savantji,

Worth Bookmarking....

And here’s the kicker…

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe , Maryland
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe.


GG

 

[aditya14]

Hi Raj,

How Was I To Know People Were Going To Buy In Truck Loads...

Look At It.....How The Scenario Changes

If It Was Matter Of few Lots....Then Risk Is Not Very Much For The Premium Paid...

But See How.....It Changes...In Your Case & GG's ....

Anyways....You Have To Wait Till....Wednesday...Because Your Exposure Is Not As Much...

For GG, I Am Trying To See In Terms Of Eating The Premiums...Other Strategies Will Follow Depending On How The Market Is During The Coming Week

Although You Could Short The December NF On Rise.....But You Have To be Careful...& Go By The Pivots & Short Term Triggers...

Happy & Safer Trading

SavantGarde

So do you foresee a december fall?

 

[SavantGarde]

Nothing Has Changed In Whatever I Have Stated Earlier....

I Have Been Rolling Over My Positions To The 3rd Month From As Far Back As February In Stocks Futures, NF & BNF Entered In The First Week Of March....Do I Look Like Somebody With A Deathwish

Unfortunately, Options Is An Entirely Different Beast...& One Is Fighting To Remain On The Right Side Even While Sleeping & On Holidays As Well...

SavantGarde

So do you foresee a december fall?

 

[chaitanyagoa]

Savantji,

Thank you very much for the help. Anyway, As a novice, I have little questions, if you can reply.

1. Shorting means selling, you mean to say, as I understand. Anyway If I sell PUTs, and then if NF goes much Lower, this PUT price will increase, and if I cover them later at higher price, will not there be a loss? Or, I shall have to buy?

GG

Hello GG,

This is what i can understand of the suggestions....... I am not sure if i am right but here is what i can decipher.............


If one is shorting the PUTS.... then One can Profit if the market goes UP... If the market falls Further the Writing of PUTS will add to the losses.......

But here is Savant's Strategy......... my understanding .....

IMPORTANT line

Lower The NF Higher The Premiums Will Be Collected By You & Outlay Will Be Margin Of 4 NFs

Considering NIfty is at 4700, if u short for every 50 points fall ....... then the following Prevails........

NIFTY------------ WRITE(s)----------------- Premium paid

4650-------------4700 PE---------------- say u pay 100rs
4600-------------4800PE----------------- 50
4550-------------4900PE------------------25
4500-------------5000PE------------------10

Since we assume the market to go up from 4500,then this is what will happen...

NIFTY---------Write(s)-----------------premium

4500---------5000PE-----------10
4550---------4900PE-----------25-30 ( but the price of 5000PE will increase)
4600---------4800OE-----------40-50(But the price of the Precious 2 write's will increase)
4650--------4700PE-------------90-100(the price of precious 3 will increase....I think, at this point,5000PE's Price will start Multiplying at this point ...........

SO, by the time the nifty reaches back to 4700+ u will be in some good profits........

If NIFTY manages to touch 5000... then u will be planning to BUY a BOEIng.......:clap:

 

[prasadam]

Don't read too much between the lines. That suggestion is for specifically for a Danav aka Raj to hedge his position, and not a general prediction for every body to follow.

So do you foresee a december fall?

 

[prasadam]

Hi friends,

It is a bit unnerving to read what is going on here. The original suggestion by SG is a low risk high reward trade. see this.

Hi Raj,

For An Outlay Of 1000 Bucks What S/L Can I Suggest...
But It Can Go To +100 Bucks On Premium...

So Watch For The Move After Expiry....Above 5230 On NF

Chances Of Getting It Even Cheaper Than The Range Mentioned By Me Is Quite Bright

Happy & Safer Trading

SavantGarde

Some members have converted it into a lottery ticket by buying the calls in truck loads without any consideration for Money Management,and are now putting pressure on SG to turn around their trades. Had they shown this risk aversion while initiating the trade itself then things would have been different.

Any how, my suggestion is if, and only if, SG suggests some strategy to anybody in particular then take that trade. Alternatively wait till end of 1st week, as was suggested by SG initially, and take a fresh look at the market during the 2nd week.

cheers.

 

[prasadam]

Hi Chaitanya,

your understanding of the strategy is correct.

If one is shorting the PUTS.... then One can Profit if the market goes UP... If the market falls Further the Writing of PUTS will add to the losses.......

BUt, your calculation part requires some reconsideration.For eg. is it premium paid or premium collected or additional margin to be paid?

cheers.

Hello GG,

This is what i can understand of the suggestions....... I am not sure if i am right but here is what i can decipher.............


If one is shorting the PUTS.... then One can Profit if the market goes UP... If the market falls Further the Writing of PUTS will add to the losses.......

But here is Savant's Strategy......... my understanding .....

IMPORTANT line

Lower The NF Higher The Premiums Will Be Collected By You & Outlay Will Be Margin Of 4 NFs

Considering NIfty is at 4700, if u short for every 50 points fall ....... then the following Prevails........

NIFTY------------ WRITE(s)----------------- Premium paid

4650-------------4700 PE---------------- say u pay 100rs
4600-------------4800PE----------------- 50
4550-------------4900PE------------------25
4500-------------5000PE------------------10

Since we assume the market to go up from 4500,then this is what will happen...

NIFTY---------Write(s)-----------------premium

4500---------5000PE-----------10
4550---------4900PE-----------25-30 ( but the price of 5000PE will increase)
4600---------4800OE-----------40-50(But the price of the Precious 2 write's will increase)
4650--------4700PE-------------90-100(the price of precious 3 will increase....I think, at this point,5000PE's Price will start Multiplying at this point ...........

SO, by the time the nifty reaches back to 4700+ u will be in some good profits........

If NIFTY manages to touch 5000... then u will be planning to BUY a BOEIng.......:clap:

 

[rajeshn2007]

Hello GG,

SO, by the time the nifty reaches back to 4700+ u will be in some good profits........

If NIFTY manages to touch 5000... then u will be planning to BUY a BOEIng.......:clap:

Hello chaitanyagoa,
you have to think about the other scenario also. what if nifty goes to 4050/4100?( which is the next support below 4500).

 

[chaitanyagoa]

Hi Chaitanya,

your understanding of the strategy is correct.



BUt, your calculation part requires some reconsideration.For eg. is it premium paid or premium collected or additional margin to be paid?

cheers.

It is the Premium collected.........

Thanks

 

[chaitanyagoa]

Hello chaitanyagoa,
you have to think about the other scenario also. what if nifty goes to 4050/4100?( which is the next support below 4500).

Hi Rajesh,

I know there are lots of IF and BUT's .... But as I mentioned.. i was Just taking into consideration What Savantji was trying to imply....

Just the strategy..... i have NO clue about the SUpports and Markets in the upcoming weeks............