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Sir Saint,

Is it right to take LONG CALL IN BHEL

Here I have posted 2 charts of Bhel:-

Chart 1 is the weekly chart of Bhel,in this chart:-


Bar "B" has made higher Pivot Low and Bar "C" has taken out high of Bar "B"


Chart 2 is tha daily chart of Bhel,in this chart:-

Bar "C" has taken out the High Pivot made by Bar "A",so,whether,one can take a long position at Bar "C" with the stop loss of low Bar "B".

Sir,kindly do comment on my observation.

Thanks,
Manik
 

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Sir,

I m posting the chart of ALMUNIUM WEEKLY MCX,I went through your very thread.

Your valuable comments are needed ,so that,I can be sure of my analysis for the chart.

1.At bar "A" one can add 50% of the quantity.Because trendline "BLUE" has been broken.

2.At bar "B" one can add another 50%,but ,it is iffy so one should wait.

3.At bar "C" one has stopped out of the trade taken at bar "A" and even one has taken trade at bar "B"

4.At bar "D" one can buy 50% as the trendline "GREEN" has been taken out.

5.At bar "E" one can add another 50% as the previous pivot high has been taken out.

Sir ,is this the right way to catch the change of trend?

with regards,

manik
Hi Manik,

Let us take a look at the chart you posted........Forget trendlines for now.Just have a look at the chart and go with what is obvious to your eye.
Look at the pivots.........If no idea what they are,or at least what I mean,do go back to the initial posts and take a look.

What do we see?A whole lot of lower pivot highs and lows.......no buys at A.Why?Coz we are in a downtrend.....buying would be committing the heinous crime of Anticipation,Guessing,Predicting,:eek:

No buys at B either......Same as above.No change in pivot,no buys.

C forms new lows.........sticking to the Plan saves us the heartache of sitting through the move if entered at A and B.

Where do you enter?We have been tracking and tracking,waiting and watching..........we have thus far refused to get into the trade,simply because we don't buy downtrends,we buy declines in uptrends,and we buy when pivots change and signal a possible change in trend.

Have a look at D.........That area,we finally get that higher pivot low that we have been waiting for........Do we buy?Nope,but we are now in "get set" mode,waiting to pounce.Where do we enter?Over the high of D

Then trail stop upwards........once you got the breakout,you could add over the high of that candle and so on.....

All the best!
Saint
 
Sir Saint,

Is it right to take LONG CALL IN BHEL

Here I have posted 2 charts of Bhel:-

Chart 1 is the weekly chart of Bhel,in this chart:-


Bar "B" has made higher Pivot Low and Bar "C" has taken out high of Bar "B"


Chart 2 is tha daily chart of Bhel,in this chart:-

Bar "C" has taken out the High Pivot made by Bar "A",so,whether,one can take a long position at Bar "C" with the stop loss of low Bar "B".

Sir,kindly do comment on my observation.

Thanks,
Manik
Hi Manik,

I know I am 89 years old and all that,or am I.........but let's drop the Sir Saint,just call me Saint.:)

I am just looking at the charts that you have posted.......not at all the latest developments of today,etc.

We have a weekly that has started a move up......a daily that has formed a higher pivot low as described by yourself(great going!!) and now threatening to go to newer highs............Great going!

Only one problem........we got a breakaway gap,another day up,a few sideways days,then a pullback.........Now,ideally would have preferred a pullback not taking out the length of the entire breakout candle,as in this case.Now we have a problem.......C is too far away from B,Any breakout over A is after 4 bullish days,basically our stop is just too far away from our entry for comfort levels...........So,what we would like is a sideways to a mild pullback over the next few days,then buy the breakout over the sideways consolidation or pullback with stop below the low of that consolidation/pullback.

All the best!
Saint

ps:Great going,Manik!
 

Satyen

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Hi
Saint as in hourly chart nifty in consolidation mode i want to buy after uper trend line broken on hourly bar and close above it

But as i was asking you about volatility should we consider pure pivot cracks or give it some room if so then how much point sould we consider above that trend line so that we consider break out is confirmed

Waiting your reply

Regards
Satya
 
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Hi
Saint as in hourly chart nifty in consolidation mode i want to buy after uper trend line broken on hourly bar and close above it

But as i was asking you about volatility should we consider pure pivot cracks or give it some room if so then how much point sould we consider above that trend line so that we consider break out is confirmed

Waiting your reply

Regards
Satya
Hi Satya,

A break over previous pivot highs is confirmation enough for an entry.......A few rupees over the pivot high break and we are in........

Two scenarios as always;either we are going to get a breakout or we're going to get a failed breakout.......If it closes over that resistance,then all's well and fine......If it dips back and closes below resistance,forming a topping tail....then not happy,most likely an exit and see how things pan out before entering again.

By the time we wait for confirmation whether this is a real breakout or a false breakout.......probably the time to sell!!So a definite buy once previous pivot highs crack to the up...

Happy Trading!
Saint
 
It's just great i'm looking for someone who can provide informations to a beginner like me!Advance thanks and looking forward for your informations
Welcome to Traderji.....

All the best!
Saint
 
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