Is India's World Cup Cricket Success Driving the NIFTY Up Through Strong Resistance?

  • Yes! Emotional buying. Market will reverse after the World Cup, irrespective of outcome.

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • No! Genuine bull run has resumed

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Not sure!

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
#21
Hello all,
Are you having problems with your trading platform or a great experience, perhaps? The Starving Trader has begun a new thread on Trader Ji to tackle issues with Sharekhan's Trade Tiger and to get us talking about how it can be improved, or other alternatives: http://www.traderji.com/brokers-tra...trade-tiger-2-feedback-thread.html#post534127

Please make your opinions count.

May your trades be profitable!
The Starving Trader
 

linkon7

Well-Known Member
#23
I simply hate the egoistical third person context. Sounds conceited. Just my view, you may write as you wish. Sounds sick though.

Lets face facts, traders are boring people. i think this guy has a very well developed funny bone....! Not to mention a sense of style and does good analysis (at least i hope so...!)

he is cho cweet...! feel like doing woobly woobly woosh to his cheeky..!
 
#24
linkon and atulas - LOL! You're correct, traders are boring people! So why not spruce it up a little, eh?

Meanwhile, The Starving Trader would like to bring to light some poor journalism by so called finance "journalists" - this one's on an yahoo article. He is unable to replicate his blog post here exactly so excuse any formatting errors:


Yahoo Finance India Jumps on the Irresponsible Financial Advise Bandwagon


The Starving Trader was browsing the web to counter his mid-afternoon slump lack of trading action and stumbled upon an article on Yahoo Finance (India) that made him take note, perk up, stifle a minor gag reflex, and that left him with an overall feeling of helplessness that culminated in nothing more than eye-rolling, and of course, this blog post.


The article in context is here is fashionably titled (click to open in new window/tab):
"Equities are pass; investors switch to commodity trade"

Snapshot of Yahoo Finance India article
titled "Equities are passe; investors switch
to commodity trade", 21 March 2011,
by Natalia George.
Note: Click snapshot to the left if you're having trouble with the link above.


Okay, so The Starving Trader gets the author's gist - that the Commodities market might be a viable alternative for investors (and traders) frustrated with the lack of returns in Equities. While this is a reasonable assertion, the utility of the advise ends there. The keyword here is might.


Commodity futures trading is no different from equities, or index futures, or forex trading, in that the fundamental ideas of risk management, limiting your risk to manageable amounts, and letting your profits run apply to trading in all markets where supply and demand of the masses are involved. Commodity markets in India, while extremely beneficial for the actual...


...hedgers, pose significant risks to inexperienced speculators because of their high leverage potential. Throw in with that the facts that brokerage fees on commodity transactions are also incredibly high and that the volumes on the MCX and NCDEX, although rising, are nowhere near ideal amounts for a speculator to operate in regularly on an intra-day basis - bar a very few commodities like Crude Oil, Silver, etc - it suggests that extreme caution is imperative on behalf of the new participant in the commodities arena. The Starving Trader has first hand experience with trading commodities as we all know, and as an example, one may view the Trade of the Week (last week) for an idea of disciplined commodity speculation.



So, to make statements claiming that the commodity market offers a "safe-haven" as opposed to the equities market is downright ignorant and draws no distinction between a financial journalist and an ignorant "tip-monkey". To quote Natalia George, from her article:


"Commodities today, is viewed as a safe haven, given the high untamable inflation rates that have kept commodity prices afloat."


Let alone the miserable use of punctuation and a total disregard for the plural rules of English, the author is guilty on other counts, viz.:

Not crediting a source for asserting that commodities are being viewed as a safe haven: Really, it could be the author's friend's grandma for all the uninformed reader's knowledge!
Again, to aver that the cause of high commodity prices is simply "untamable inflation" in of itself begs for elaboration and explication.
Towards the end of the article, the author goes on to assert that with these commodity prices at all time highs, why not join the herd and get some "glittering" returns. Really now? The Starving Trader is appalled! Whatever happened to the concept of 'buy low and sell high'? Would you stack up on 5 kilos of onions when prices are hovering around Rs. 250 due to some freak incident, or would you rather buy them when the prices pull back down to something more manageable?
Yahoo Finance has always been The Starving Trader's preferred portal for quick access to high-level financial data and interactive charts in the absence of other platforms. However, if the quality of financial reporting is to be this irresponsible and amateurish, then Yahoo had better be ready to lose more of its brand name to firms that actually hire folks who, in the least, think before they speak.


Right, The Starving Trader hopes that he was able to highlight an example of the garbage that floats as sound financial advise out in the public sphere. Remember, there is no substitute for logical financial planning/investing of your own - at least this way if you still lose money you have only yourself to blame, and your own mistakes to learn from.


Peace out!
 
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MurAtt

Well-Known Member
#25
Commodity trading imo was started to hedge for firms and has become a hot cake revenue generation for the brokerage houses and the govts.

Commodity trading should be stopped (my view and I could be wrong) and I am sure this step would reduce the prices of commodities to such an extent that common man (aam admi) would be always smiling.

:)
 

comm4300

Well-Known Member
#26
Commodity trading imo was started to hedge for firms and has become a hot cake revenue generation for the brokerage houses and the govts.

Commodity trading should be stopped (my view and I could be wrong) and I am sure this step would reduce the prices of commodities to such an extent that common man (aam admi) would be always smiling.

:)
humbly disagree...

when trading happens on exchanges there is a supposed 'price discovery'...
manipulation/cartelisation existed even before exchange trading started. It was easy for regional big shots to jack up prices...but when traders/investors/funds from the entire country come to a common platform to discover price...price manipulation becomes harder [not impossible].

besides, commodity trading was primarily meant to help farmers hedge their risk. Whether farmers are actually hedging or indulging in speculation is debatable....
 
#27
Good debate! The Starving Trader will have to respectfully state that he believes that exchanges, theoretically, do help in regulating price fluctuations and create a bias-free market environment for buyers and sellers - a.k.a MCX, in our case. Otherwise, there is nothing to stop a seller in one region selling a good for a ridiculous price with no accountability whilst the true price of the commodity elsewhere is much lower.

Having said that though, the bane of the free market is such, and he thinks this is where Murtaza is coming from, that the few parties with massive purchase power do have the ability to hedge considerable amounts and create artificial valuations, consequently affecting the aam aadmi - however, this is also true for all instruments, not just commodities. It becomes imperative, therefore, for exchanges to do all they can to increase traffic and volumes and to establish standards, transparency, and accountability within their charters.

Increased traffic is a boon to technical speculators, naturally! And remember the hedgers need speculators to take on the added risk of not possessing the deliverables - speculators are like insurance to the hedgers. Likewise, speculators naturally need hedgers!

The Starving Trader is new to MCX trading and would like for more readers to share their opinions with us. Thanks in advance!

The Starving Trader
 
#28
Live! Trading day

TUESDAY, MARCH 29, 2011

Live! Trading Day March 29th, 2011: Wily Old NIFTY
As promised, here is the live day-trading thread that The Starving Trader will track and update as follows:

  • Updates every half hour unto 1130hrs.
  • Updates every hour thereafter unto market close
    [/LIST
    NIFTY Overview
    The NIFTY has been behaving as expected and is into the 5700s. Image:

    NIFTY Daily Chart, as of March 28, 2011; 89 SMA Plotted
    Day Trading Overview
    It's going to be a very tricky day as The Starving Trader believes that there is very limited room to the upside, in that, any upward opening may quickly falter at the 5715, and if not that, then around 5760. This does not make for very desirable profit targets on the upside.
    On the other hand, if it opens lower, it might want to head back up and test yesterday's close, or go even higher to the numbers specified.
    Nevertheless, The Starving Trader will go short on his swing levels on IDFC, ICICIBANK, and LT, should price come in. Alternatively, the day trading strategy always is as follows:
    • Determine NIFTY Dominant Trend - Daily
    • Determine NIFTY Intra-Day Trend - 15 minute chart/hourly
    • Determine NIFTY Extremes - Daily and Hourly Charts (this is not possible on Trade Tiger because the hourly time frame only extends back a month)... Sharekhan, take note! So we'll have to go by the Daily chart.
    • Determine at least 1 stock with strength and at least 1 with weakness; trade them in either direction
    • Scan news for events affecting the stock/scripp
    • Respect Risk:Reward... at least 1:2.5-ish

    CLICK CONTINUE BELOW FOR ENTIRE POST:


    0915 Hrs.
    So, let's see how the market opens. The Starving Trader won't be taking any trades until he sees some sort of direction in the NIFTY. Meanwhile, he will also be tracking his swing levels on the stocks listed. Right, next update at 0930.
 
#29
Re: Live! Trading day

TUESDAY, MARCH 29, 2011

Live! Trading Day March 29th, 2011: Wily Old NIFTY
As promised, here is the live day-trading thread that The Starving Trader will track and update as follows:

  • Updates every half hour unto 1130hrs.
  • Updates every hour thereafter unto market close
    [/LIST
    NIFTY Overview
    The NIFTY has been behaving as expected and is into the 5700s. Image:

    NIFTY Daily Chart, as of March 28, 2011; 89 SMA Plotted
    Day Trading Overview
    It's going to be a very tricky day as The Starving Trader believes that there is very limited room to the upside, in that, any upward opening may quickly falter at the 5715, and if not that, then around 5760. This does not make for very desirable profit targets on the upside.
    On the other hand, if it opens lower, it might want to head back up and test yesterday's close, or go even higher to the numbers specified.
    Nevertheless, The Starving Trader will go short on his swing levels on IDFC, ICICIBANK, and LT, should price come in. Alternatively, the day trading strategy always is as follows:
    • Determine NIFTY Dominant Trend - Daily
    • Determine NIFTY Intra-Day Trend - 15 minute chart/hourly
    • Determine NIFTY Extremes - Daily and Hourly Charts (this is not possible on Trade Tiger because the hourly time frame only extends back a month)... Sharekhan, take note! So we'll have to go by the Daily chart.
    • Determine at least 1 stock with strength and at least 1 with weakness; trade them in either direction
    • Scan news for events affecting the stock/scripp
    • Respect Risk:Reward... at least 1:2.5-ish

    CLICK CONTINUE BELOW FOR ENTIRE POST:


    0915 Hrs.
    So, let's see how the market opens. The Starving Trader won't be taking any trades until he sees some sort of direction in the NIFTY. Meanwhile, he will also be tracking his swing levels on the stocks listed. Right, next update at 0930.


  • 0932 Hrs.
    Right, NIFTY is heading higher. Will it stall at 5715? Or will it head higher unto 5760? Still too early to pick a direction and trade. Next update at 0945. The Starving Trader realizes that updates for the first hour will be every 15 minutes! Meanwhile, post your comments and let him know how you are doing if you're tracking the market, or your thoughts on the whole thing.
 
#30
Re: Live! Trading day

0932 Hrs.
Right, NIFTY is heading higher. Will it stall at 5715? Or will it head higher unto 5760? Still too early to pick a direction and trade. Next update at 0945. The Starving Trader realizes that updates for the first hour will be every 15 minutes! Meanwhile, post your comments and let him know how you are doing if you're tracking the market, or your thoughts on the whole thing.

0945 Hrs.
RELINFRA looks like a good scrip to trade today to the upside. The hourly chart doesn't show any significant resistance until around 685. NIFTY's in the 5720s and could stall. The Starving Trader will enter RELINFRA long only id the NIFTY stalls and around the 672 area. Whether or not this is a reversal, he shall soon find out :)
 

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