Thoughts on Day/Swing Trading Part 2

Gaur_Krishna

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Need to focus on this study. Success rate: 55%, Avg Gain : 24 pts, avg loss: 8 pts, Net Avg Gain: 16 pts :)

This post is just making me realistick about what to expect :D

What about BNF da?

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna

I did some analysis of my intraday Nifty Futures trades . My success ratio is 55 %. So in every 2 trades I win 1 trade and loose on 1 trade. In loosing trades I have included those trades in which I got out early( scratch trades where I got out in 3-4 points ) as per my trading system though the trade may not have hit the stoploss. My average loosing trade is 8 points and average winning trade is 24 points. I normally have 2 trades in a day...sometimes 3 or 4 . Assuming 2 trades in a day and one looser and one winner, my average points per day in Nfity futures come to 24-8 = 16 points

The figures above are average figures.This data I worked on 3 months so the sample size is not very large to get any definite trends, but thought it may help you.

Smart_trade
The figures above are average figures. They are not everyday figures. On some days I make 3 trades and end up loosing 6-8 points....on some days on 2 trades I make 40 points. But as I have extremely tight risk control, my loosing day will never be more than 12-15 points at worst.Normally it is below 10 points.

ST
 
Need to focus on this study. Success rate: 55%, Avg Gain : 24 pts, avg loss: 8 pts, Net Avg Gain: 16 pts :)

This post is just making me realistick about what to expect :D

What about BNF da?

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna
Not done any such study on BNF.

Smart_trade
 

Gaur_Krishna

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ST da & seniors,

Had one question. Is it possible to download entire thread? Why I am asking this is because, many times we all cut-paste imp posts but I think its easier to delete posts and to cut-paste. So it would be great, if we can download entire thread with all its posts & charts and delete some unwanted posts from there.

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna
 
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Gaur_Krishna

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Some nice Swing charts by ST da... :thumb:

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna



Nifty Futures swing on 60 min chart.

Smart_trade


I was discussing trading methods with a friend who is in a hedge fund. His mandate is as under :

1) He wants a totally mechanical chart based trading system.

2) Peak to valley drawdown not to exceed 15 % max.

3) Wants to deploy large volume ( almost nearing 3 digits in Rs crores) so daytrading on small timeframes is out....swing trading on larger timeframes needed.

4) He does not want any fancy returns by taking large risks.....risk control most important.

The trades are marked on the chart...red line shows short, dotted red shows add ( only 1 add considered) and black line shows covering the trade.

Trades are taken in direction of clear visual trend.....on pivots. Antitrend moves not traded.

Trades are as under : ( June Bank Nifty Fut)

Trade 1 : Short @ 12846...add @ 12687 Trade closed at 12447 = + 639 points

Trade 2 : Short @ 12321 Stopped out at 12364 = - 43 points ( loss)

Trade 3 : Short @ 12301 Add @ 12132 Trade closed at 11869 = + 695 points

Trade 4 : Short at 11836 Add @ 11518 Trade closed at 11254 = + 846 points

Trade 5 : Short @ 11160 Trade stopped out at 11254 = - 94 points ( loss )

Total 5 trades, 3 profits, 2 losses....points made in profitable trades = 2180 points , Points lost in loosing trades = 137 Net points made = 2043 points.

With less than 0.5 % risk on capital on every trade, the gains are over 7 % per month......very good returns for the risk undertaken.

Smart_trade
 

Gaur_Krishna

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Yes these are great filters: For day trade filter of 2-5 points and for swing trade using 30min or 60 min TF, use 10-20 points...

Thanks ST da,

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna

If daytrading then Filter in NF and BNF could be 2 points and 5 points. If swing trading they could be 10 points and 20 points respectively.

Smart_trade
 

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