Trading according to Karthiks strategy..

Does ATP method is prfitable for your trade?

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 40.6%
  • No

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Not all the time

    Votes: 16 50.0%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

rkkarnani

Well-Known Member
Hi Karthikji, Rangarajanji, RKKarnaniji, Anupji and other,

This is my first post in this thread.

Today I was watching 3 scripts namely SUNTV, CENTURYTEX & STERLITE to understand the ATP Strategy and found the following :

I don't know how to post chart here, so not posting any chart.

SUNTV : ATP of 05.02.13 was 478.25
Today

6-Feb-13 9:29:49 478.1 482.15 478.1 480.45 (Touched ATP)
6-Feb-13 9:44:55 480.5 480.95 478.8 479.9
6-Feb-13 9:59:50 479.85 482.15 479 479 (Buy Triggered)
6-Feb-13 10:14:56 479.25 479.6 476.5 477.65 (SL Trig & also sell Trig)
6-Feb-13 10:29:52 477.85 481.15 477.85 481.15
6-Feb-13 10:44:48 481.05 483.4 481.05 481.75 (SL Trig)

CENTURYTEX : ATP of 05.02.13 was 382.21
Never touched ATP

STERLITE : ATP of 05.02.13 was 107.92
6-Feb-13 13:29:56 108.3 108.3 107.7 107.9 (ATP Touched)
6-Feb-13 13:44:59 107.9 107.9 107.5 107.5 (Sell Triggered)
6-Feb-13 13:59:58 107.5 108.3 107.35 108.05 (SL Trig, Buy Trig & again SL trig)
6-Feb-13 14:14:54 107.95 108.1 107.4 107.4

Please let know that my observations are correct or wrong. If my observations are wrong kindly highlight the same.

Awaiting comments from you all.

Dipendu
SUN TV :
ATP 478.25 ,
9:30 bar touched ATP as high is 482.15 but where did it close ? The close is 480.45, i.e. above ATP.
So a BUY signal was in place. Where do we BUY ? We BUY above the high ! i.e. above > 482.15
9:45 bar did not touch ATP and remained above ATP. Our Buy signal is intact.
10:00 bar : Did not go above 482.15, we have still not entered Long. (Karthik shall have the last word, but this has been my experience : In RT our data may be erroneous and it is always advised to use filter to filter out data error and also give us small cushion in trade, though in this case price never went above trigger bar HIGH... there is a difference between Buy at high and Buy above high. I am personally more cautious, use very slightly higher Filter with trades on 1st bar of the day.) All said and done, suppose this trade was indeed triggered even with Filter, well then so be it, SL's are part of this business and a very important part at that!!)
10:15 bar Yes, would have hit the SL. Where is the SL , its below 478.10 why because the 9:30 bar that touched the ATP and closed above and gave us Long Trigger Level had a low of 478.10 ! 10:15 bar does a low of 476.50 so no questions, if we were long we are out !
10:15 bar, SL hit if we were long BUT Short was NOT triggered. Why? Where is short position to be taken. When a Bar touches ATP and closes below, we go short below the low of this bar. This bar from above goes below ATP and does a Low of 476.50 and closes at 477.65 which is below the ATP so we have a Short signal in place, we are not yet short as we need to go short below the low of 476.50 !
10:30 bar : We are waiting for the Short trigger which does not happen as 476.50 low is not breached. but the bar touches ATP and closes above ATP with high at 481.15 ! Here we have a Long set up waiting to bee triggered.
10:45 bar : 481.15 is breached , we go long and exit at our target as high done is 483.40!

Sterlite : The ATP is 107.92 , a close of 107.90 to me is neither here nor there and hence it is a close neither above ATP nor below so no action no setup for either Long or Short on this bar.
 

rkkarnani

Well-Known Member
Dipendu,

I am taking SUNTV .
9.15-9.30 - Touched ATP & closed above it.
So,Long>482.15, But,till 10.0hr,trade Not triggered

10.0-10.15 - Touched ATP & closed above it
So,Long> 479.6, s/l 476.5,
Trade Triggered & went upto 483.4

Our Target ONE rs & u got Bonus.:)

Run to ATM.
Seems you and me both were answering at the same time and I posted later and then found your post. :D
Sir, the 10-10:15 bar did not close above ATP, its 10:15 to 10:30 bar that does !
 
Thanks. Thanks a lot to Rangajanji and RKKarnaniji for reply and correcting your observations.

My observations were wrong. I was not considering close above and/or close below of ATP after touching the same. Also understood that buy should be considered if bar closes above ATP and sell should be considered if close below ATP.

Thank you both for correcting my mistake.
 
Hi Kartikji,

Its very good strategy.I hv few doubts.
1]What is the target for cash scripts if you are saying Rs 1000 gain.
2]What are reentry rules if 1st target is achived. For that we should know 1st target

Thanks & Regards

Mohan
 

Xitij

Active Member
Mnay many thank you to all and spl to Karthik... and rkkarnani who provided the ATP level of Adani futures at 249.xx and went short in Adanient below 248.50 less filter 0.50 , this was low of the 11 AM bar and triggered a short in next bar and did well, as it hit a low of 245.80 ! I exited at 247.05 ! With a lot size of 2000, I am watching the show from side lines now! :D
Earlier a long was in place above 250.65+filter above 10:30 bar but did not trigger due to filter.
On checking also found that Ragarajan's advise to reverse on SL can give back the SL points is a really excellent advise and must be looked into by all who are trading this strategy. Maybe the need for filter shall be eliminated too becoz a 50 paise SL advised by rkk seems too big for comfort if our tgt is just Re.1/- However if we can increase our tgt by this 50 paise than its fine !
Blessings to all from this Senior Citizen from Nagaur, Rajasthan. :)
It would be simply too good if anyone with access to data can post the levels of Futures and Cash for the most potent stocks for this system.
 

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