Trading NR7 setup

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I am tracking this thread for last few days.
In Nifty spot, today "YES" has come under the NR7 flag column of the Excel file given in the first post.
Since market is in rise for last few days, we can assume that in near future market will fall.

Whereas SUZLON in spot market had given NR7 day yesterday and it closed in green today with white candle body and engulfing the yesterday's candle.So we can presume that SUZLON is in intermediate uptrend or bullish.So we can go long with SUZLON.


Seniors please comment. Whether my understanding is correct or not?
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Sujit Talukder
 
I am tracking this thread for last few days.
In Nifty spot, today "YES" has come under the NR7 flag column of the Excel file given in the first post.
Since market is in rise for last few days, we can assume that in near future market will fall.
Sujit

I would be careful with that comment. Just because the mkt has gone up for a few days and we get a NR7 day does not mean that the mkt will go down. That is an assumption not founded on any basis. NR7 only indicates range contraction. It is direction agnostic.

Mkt can continue to go up even after it has gone up a lot. I remember either in 2008 or 2009 Nifty had 14 days of consecutive positive finishes. Irrational? Yes. The saying in the market is Market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
 
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Last week's range was 76 points. This week we had the expected range expansion. We had a weekly range of 176 points. Weekly low was at 5105 and weekly high was achieved today at 5281. That was the sixth consecutive week of positive finish. Is that the top? It is anybody's guess We may see the knee jerk reaction to RBI's rate hike on Monday morning. But beyond that is anyone's guess. Coming week is FNO expiry as well as shortened week. No trading on Wednesday (Ramnavami). So volatility is in order.
 
NR7 is just one of the breakout trading setup. There are many other breakout trading setups - bollinger band, ATR range, chart patterns like - Ractangle, triangle etc. multi-timeframe breakout etc.
They all have some approach of identifying the congestion and then get ready to benefit from the breakout.

Hope this helps.
Happy Trading
Did not know anything about ATR range trading setup. If possible can you tell something about it or maybe pm me any book name where I can read about it in detail .
Thank you
 
Brandon, Thanks for sharing the chart and your appraoch to trade Nr7 breakout using "EMA crossover system".

Do you have more specific rules for EMA crossover system covering exact entry, initial stops, trailing stops, scale-in etc. ? Not sure if you would like to share them here.

IMO, EMA crossover is typical, trend following system..and that suits perfectly to trade the breakout.


@RKK, some of your questions are already answered by Brandon. I am expressing my thoughts on this section.



IMO, if that happens (i.e. no range expansion or range breakout), then our stops will be hit and we move on to next trade.
You can very well use pivots high/low to put initial stop and to chase the trend by moving stops from pivot to pivot.
If you fancy, Parabolic SAR then use that to drive your stops.

Important is to have exit plan defined. Breakout trading has higher failure rate, but that shouldn't bother us as long as we squeez the max from successful breakout. Anyway, trading is not about being RIGHT.. but about managing risk and profits. So why worry about failed breakout. Just define our rules that tells us that breakout has failed and exit the trade there.

Hope this helps.
Happy Trading
Sorry for the delay in posting AW10 , would have done last night had it not been for the frequent powercuts in Kolkata. :mad:
I will try to post better Amibroker charts , showing exact Entry points. I do not follow any particular H/L values for Initial stop losses. My brokerage eats up about 3 points in nifty , and I keep another 8 points as cushion for SL.
Parabolic SAR , which you rightly pointed out is a great indicator for Trailing Stops. I personally dont follow any rigid trailing S/L , just keep a gap of 5 or 0.1% points as the trade goes in my direction. Yeah its true , with no range expansion , have to move on with stops getting triggerd , maybe there is any filter to reduce those but havent found any. :(
So far am trading with only 1 -2 lots of nifty , so cannot say anything about Adds or Scale-in.
Exits like you rightly said is as important as Entry points , but as a novice trader am still yet to master them. I use vanilla pivot S/R levels as my Take profit levels. You can also try Fibonacci retracement levels , whichever suits you better.
Speaking of False breakouts , anybody tried trading false breakouts ?
 
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Hi All back after a long time , though i trade 60 min time frame want to experiment some thing on weekly contraction and 60 min trading ......

So if some one can upload weekly data of nifty in a excell format from jan 08 then it will be great help
 
In UNITECH there are many times consecutive NR7 days. Even today 22/03/2010 is also a NR7 -2 day. What does it signigy? Does it mean that a big either up or down can happen in UNITECH and such big move is due to arrive?

Image attached.-UNITECH

For Powergrid, 19/03/2010 was a NR 7 day. But it had not gone above NR7 day high and ALso not gone gone below NR7 day low on 22/03/2010.
What does it signify? Is it a failed NR7 signal? How one can trade based on this failed signals?
Image attched Powergrid:


Seniors please clarify.
 

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In UNITECH there are many times consecutive NR7 days. Even today 22/03/2010 is also a NR7 -2 day. What does it signigy? Does it mean that a big either up or down can happen in UNITECH and such big move is due to arrive?
Sujit,
NR7 - 2 days, just indicates that the stock is going thru longer consolidation. i.e. market particpants are not sure about the next direction and hence waiting for someone else to
kickstart new trend. In my observation, there is no direct relation between longer consolidation and size of next move. But direct correlation is generally true, specially if it is supporeted by trend of overall market.
Generally one of typical occurance of such long consolidation is false breakout. Cause there is lack of interest in stock by biggies, hence other players (with sufficient financial power) try to test the demand supply and push the prices in that direction. For eg - Unitech is not able to cross 75. So players will push prices to 75.5 to see if new sellers are entereing the market or more buyers are following them.. As per my understanding, key decision from biggies don't react to 5 min/ hourly chart, hence it is possible for price to show in shorter term as if it has broken upward. But then biggies comeback next day to either push it down.. and give us false breakout.. or they support and start buying giving us successful breakout. So, I would suggest to excercise patience and watch out for what happens after the breakout and trade accordingly.
And even if your stops are hit, don't forget to watch for great trade in other direction.

In this post I have mentioned about what to observe in false v/s successful breakout.
http://www.traderji.com/advanced-trading-strategies/29825-trading-nr7-setup-45.html#post384035

If you like to trade Unitech, then observe yourself on Unitech chart and note how did the stock behave after NER7-2 day breakout in the past.
I remember Rohan, has done similar study and he has filtered many stocks that have tendency of going in multi day consolidation and focus only on other stocks that have more regular trading behaviour.

For Powergrid, 19/03/2010 was a NR 7 day. But it had not gone above NR7 day high and ALso not gone gone below NR7 day low on 22/03/2010.
What does it signify? Is it a failed NR7 signal? How one can trade based on this failed signals?
Powergrid did break on downside of yesterday's range.. but the break turnout to be false today.. as price has returned to yesterday's narrow range.
So we can't say at this stage that the stock has shown bearish breakout.
Check out the rules of breakout identification in given link above.. Maybe that will help you in reducing the confusion and taking objective decision to trade.

In my view, trading is not about being right in evrey trade. It is more about, finding low risk trade entry, accepting smaller losses and riding the winner to collect maximum profit.

Happy Trading.
 
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