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poortrader

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Re: how come zerodha is costlier compared to sharekhan

for me seeing is believing! for that:

either - i have to open an a/c with you and see it by myself if the total cost for 1-2 lots/trade (TO of less than 5lacs/trade) is less than compared to sharekhan or not!

or you can post a contract note (deleting the identity of trader) where the exact stamp duty is mentioned. wont you do it for a prospective client like me?

but on a bigger picture my arguements/explanation in post438 and post447 confirms that zerodha is not for retail clients who trade less than 2 lots/trade or whose TO is less than 5lacs/trade!

do u agree with this or not?
xsis, sharekhan not charging you stamp duty as per gujarat rates?
 

poortrader

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Re: how come zerodha is costlier compared to sharekhan

have a look at my contract note in post447
yes, they are charging at less rates, how can sharekhan charge you less, and why not zerodha, is the state governments only after zerodha? ideally they should have sent notices to sharekhan as well, if the rule applies to everyone.
 

xsis

Active Member
Re: how come zerodha is costlier compared to sharekhan

more charging has to be explained by zerodha and not by sharekhan :annoyed:. coz what sharekhan is charging is being charged by every other broker in india :thumb: as far as my knowledge goes. one can correct me on this!

the problem is the claim of cheap brokerage or being a cheap broker is hollow when traders are trading only 1-2 lots/trade (TO less than 5lacs). it holds no ground at all coz the stamp duty charges which are not there in the brokerage calculator knocks off the benefits of 20/- per trade when the trader is only trading 1-2lots/trade (TO less than 5lacs)!

but i dont understand the logic of zerodha behind stamp duty charges at all :mad: why can't they be more transparent!

yes, they are charging at less rates, how can sharekhan charge you less, and why not zerodha, is the state governments only after zerodha? ideally they should have sent notices to sharekhan as well, if the rule applies to everyone.
 
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TracerBullet

Well-Known Member
Re: how come zerodha is costlier compared to sharekhan

same goes with options trading as ur definition of TO is lot size * (strike price + premium) which u take to calculate stamp duty of 0.01%, which is again not the csse for other brokerages which will only charge me 0.4-0.5 only for a nifty contract! so options trading with zerodha is profitable only if i trade more than 3 lots per trade otherwise its damn costly!

Sharekhan seems to charge minimum 100 per contract for options, so how can it be cheaper for small lots ?

This is what zerodha charged for 2 lots nifty options (@ ~30 premium)

Turnover Chrgs
2.48
Service Tax
2.78
Sebi Charges
0.00
Stamp. Chrgs
1.00
STT
1.00
Total Brokerage
20.00

So about 27 in this case
 
Hi Zerodha,
I have been charged 350 as stamp charges yesterday. Till day before it was maximum 50. Could you please clarify?
 
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xsis

Active Member
Re: how come zerodha is costlier compared to sharekhan

option volumes driven trader do get discounts :)
lets not get into hw much discount these traders get!
point is zerodha has to clarify once in for all on stamp duty charges and how its affecting the overall cost! their silence is throwing more doubts on the overall cost structure!
gud tht i didnt send the docs thru courier which i was supposed to do on this weekend!

Sharekhan seems to charge minimum 100 per contract for options, so how can it be cheaper for small lots ?

This is what zerodha charged for 2 lots nifty options (@ ~30 premium)

Turnover Chrgs
2.48
Service Tax
2.78
Sebi Charges
0.00
Stamp. Chrgs
1.00
STT
1.00
Total Brokerage
20.00

So about 27 in this case
 
Hi,
xsis,

Download the ZerodhaChargeList form their web site, all stamp duty is clearly mentioned there.
If you are from Gujrat, Stamp duty for Gujrat is only 0.002% for futures from Zerodha same as ShareKhan. Open a account with Rs 300 only, trade with Rpower again, see your contract note in your own eyes and believe it.

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Here is the reason why you (and some other friends) find it difficult to understand their present stamp duty structure.

Many big brokers like ICICI, ShareKhan follows fixed stamp duty according to Maharashtra which is 0.002% as their main branch.
Zererodha followed 0.01% or Rs 50 which is rate of Bangalore [Karnataka]. Using that that they attracted high frequency & volume traders. Although their turnover charge is high, they got that extra Rs 150/Cr benefit. As their turnover is increased, some state Govt like TN, Guj, Maharastra send notice to them to apply higher stamp duty according to such states as such states has no max cap facility. Zerodha started to apply the Stamp Duty according to such 4 states which causes anger from their clients.

Now after a notice a broker is bound to obey the rule or the broker can challenge that rule in the court immediately.
Some other Maharastra based brokers like Aditya Birla Money, Geojit BNP Paribas Financial Services, Kotak Securities and Sharekhan already got notice from TN for sure. They challenged it to Madras High Court & has won an interim injunction against recent changes in the stamp duty structure in Tamil Nadu. So they are also currently charging as old rates.
I have posted the link here, it is for you again.

http://articles.economictimes.india...ecurities-and-sharekhan-tamil-nadu-duty-rates

Some brokers with less clients not got notice from such states so that they also charging fixed rate of 0.002%.
That is the reason that Zerodha is charging differently stamp duty for 4 states currently.

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But I personally feel Rs 600 [TN] or Rs 1000 stamp duty [WB] with no max cap is too much bcoz trading is not like reality business, here profit is not guaranteed. So Zerodha must also challenge TN in Madras High Court.

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Take pain to explain the fact bcoz zerodha explained my query well here.
Broker client relationship must be always give and take (in TJ also). :D

Cheers.
 
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xsis

Active Member
dear Price Pattern Recognition :clap:
if this is hw it is. i am really very happy :thumb:
:thanx: for taking pains and explaining the same!
i really appreciate it :hap2:

Hi,
xsis,

Download the ZerodhaChargeList form their web site, all stamp duty is clearly mentioned there.
If you are from Gujrat, Stamp duty for Gujrat is only 0.002% for futures from Zerodha same as ShareKhan. Open a account with Rs 300 only, trade with Rpower again, see your contract note in your own eyes and believe it.

------------------

Here is the reason why you (and some other friends) find it difficult to understand their present stamp duty structure.

Many big brokers like ICICI, ShareKhan follows fixed stamp duty according to Maharashtra which is 0.002% as their main branch.
Zererodha followed 0.01% or Rs 50 which is rate of Bangalore [Karnataka]. Using that that they attracted high frequency & volume traders. Although their turnover charge is high, they got that extra Rs 150/Cr benefit. As their turnover is increased, some state Govt like TN, Guj, Maharastra send notice to them to apply higher stamp duty according to such states as such states has no max cap facility. Zerodha started to apply the Stamp Duty according to such 4 states which causes anger from their clients.

Now after a notice a broker is bound to obey the rule or the broker can challenge that rule in the court immediately.
Some other Maharastra based brokers like Aditya Birla Money, Geojit BNP Paribas Financial Services, Kotak Securities and Sharekhan already got notice from TN for sure. They challenged it to Madras High Court & has won an interim injunction against recent changes in the stamp duty structure in Tamil Nadu. So they are also currently charging as old rates.
I have posted the link here, it is for you again.

http://articles.economictimes.india...ecurities-and-sharekhan-tamil-nadu-duty-rates

Some brokers with less clients not got notice from such states so that they also charging fixed rate of 0.002%.
That is the reason that Zerodha is charging differently stamp duty for 4 states currently.

-----------------

But I personally feel Rs 600 [TN] or Rs 1000 stamp duty [WB] with no max cap is too much bcoz trading is not like reality business, here profit is not guaranteed. So Zerodha must also challenge TN in Madras High Court.

------------

Take pain to explain the fact bcoz zerodha explained my query well here.
Broker client relationship must be always give and take (in TJ also). :D

Cheers.
 

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