Zerodha - Number One Discount Broker in India

columbus

Well-Known Member
I too had problems with nest plus today.Used pi for charting and nest for trading and it worked(run both of them at same time).
@Zerodha ,is disabling one by one in SLOW manner , thereby forcing users to migrate to
PI.

1.First ,they disabled charts from ZT.(Using shortcut Shift+C)

2.Disabled different charts from NEST.(Today you must have noticed that NO LINE charts,
No Bar Charts,No Ashi charts ........................etc)

3.Only default charts OHLC and Candles available.

There is nothing WRONG in migrating to PI.

But it should be full-fledged and should be a replica of NEST/ZT.

In ZT ,as many as 60+ indices are there.But in PI ,very few indices are there.
 

Snake.Head

Well-Known Member
Same with me... I too faced login issues first on ZT around 2:15 which continued till 3:00pm. Then, I tried using Z5 (web) through BSNL and Zerodha Mobile (through Airtel 3G) as well but nothing worked. It can't be an ISP issue rather something from Zerodha or Omnesys side. Please look into it.

Thanks
This something on sever side of it or problem with Omnesys server
Hope they get own dedicated data center...
Because i remember Zerodha saying that there sever deployment got delay has sever rack where already full or something...
Hope they don't rely on out source
I hoping they get sever in they own Bangalore office so they take fast action in downtime

In Meanwhile RKSV blog post about there infrastructure

Note:- spamming or supporting any broker...Just want Zerodha get issue resolved
 

Jai Mata Di

Well-Known Member
Just, read the RKSV blog. It is clear that after we complained about Nest Problem during volatility here, they are trying to take the advantage. :lol:

But they must know many Zerodha Customer has experience with RKSV too. :)
And my experience is same problem occurs with RKSV Nest too.
Problem is completely with Nest & it is Stock Market specific (due to user/order overload during high volaitlity :p).
Same Nest operate smoothly in MCX after Equity market is closed, as pressure releases. Same Nest hardly face disconnection at Night (MCX). And this is true for all brokers. :D

NSE NOW & NEST is almost same software but, NOW faces lesser problem during volatility probably due to much lesser user logged into NSENOW comparing to NEST. Without Nest Plus charts NSE NOW hardly faces any problem.

But good charting with trading terminal has always some advantages, so eagerly looking for performance of Pi when server is up. Waiting.....:)


Happy Trading.

H.C.
 

bpr

Well-Known Member
Hey Throwaway, hopefully you will put yourself in our shoes sometime.

You can make scathing comments and get away because you are " Throwaway" a pseudo id and what you say will make no difference to your reputation. We on the other hand are a business and have to basically keep quiet because we have a brand to protect.

We have had detractors from Day 1 of our business on traderji, the 3rd page of our first thread here like 1lk+ posts back, there were a bunch of people who said that we will disappear in few months and can't keep up with answering queries and we will burn. So yeah, we would love to prove the detractors wrong.

We are all working hard to make something work, working weekends, working 15 to 20 hours a day, so when you make some random blanket statement like get rid of what we are working on, hmm.. I don't know what you would feel if you were in our shoes.

Feedback is good, the only thing you had issue on earlier was about horizontal/vertical lines not being able to be moved. That has been fixed. The other issue you have now is the data, that will be fixed soon, we have been telling that our data servers will take a few days to be operational. So if there is anything that you want to be fixed, let us know and that will help us.

Coming back to reinvent the wheel bit, you seem to know more than what we all who have been in the business for so long seem to know. Would love to hear what you mean by we should not have reinvented the wheel?

If you are talking about MT4/5, they don't have exchange trading capability.

If you are talking about charting platforms like Amibroker/Ninja trader, they can't be customized to trade directly on exchange. And like I already said earlier, data can't be given free of cost from NEST. Even if there was a way we did, we still have to rely on NEST which we have no control on(owned by omnesys). Also license of Amibroker/ninjatrader costs between Rs 30,000 to Rs 50,000. Can we support a person who uses pirated version? No.

Esignal, tradestation, costs between Rs 1.2lks to Rs 2lks per year to use. Again can't be customized for trading on Indian exchanges.
If you are okay paying this much, to have same model as esignal/tradestation, you need to own the software first right? An esignal/tradestation won't sell their proprietary software to a brokerage in India, would they? When their entire business is around licensing. Why do we need to own it, because without owning it, we can't have it customized to all those 100 regulations that Indian exchanges have.

The only products out there in India are those built by Omnesys, FT, DION, Omnesys is definitely the best of the three.

There are a bunch of technology vendors around the world especially in Russia/Ukraine, but everyone charges on per license, and costs are restrictive.

So do let us know if you think there is some better option that we don't already know about.

Pi is a work in progress, it is like looking at a building that is not yet completely constructed. And like every big project, we have encountered issues that we hadn't earlier factored in, we have to work in probably the most regulated business environment in the country. But by the end of it, you can be rest assure that you will have the best trading platform in the country. We love to hear feedback, but give us something which is constructive instead of blanket statements which are of no use.

I don't know why I am even writing this,because I am sure you will come back with another comment and I will have to keep quiet because, " Customer is always right" :)
Hi Zerodha,

I have a suggestion for you.
You can continue to work with Pi for a free solution but you can create tie up with sierrachart and some datefeed provider to provide a option to power user.

Why Sierra Chart(SC)?

SC is as capable as some of the leading such as Ninjatrader and multicharts.
While the later may not be willing to work with a Indian broker the former will. because SC is relatively new and small player will accommodate your needs.

SC does not have one time huge upfront fee but rather monthly fee for license which will be very good for Indian users.

Ami may be a good charting platform but not a good trading platform.

their cost is 20$ to 40$ per month depending on packages.
if my understanding is correct then the 40$ package is not applicable as no Indian datafeed provider can utilize these features.

So it is $20 or $29 depending on package 1 or 3.

Currently GDFL is the only one supporting SC but they have some issues I heard.

All you have to do is integrate Sierrachart platform so that user can place orders to their respective Zerodha account directly from SC

You might have to pay them to do this integration but it should be one time cost.

Once done then end user can get a fully functional charting platform /integrated trading platform for 2.5K to 5k per month which is not bad at all.
(depending on various data feed packages)

Or you can negotiate with both parties and give one discounted price to the end user.

You can also check with Neotrades if they are interested as their pricing is little more competitive than GDFL.

I recently took trial of SC. Here are my review comments

SC:
UI wise not fancy and actually confusing to some extent will take some getting used to.
Learning curve is not that smooth but slowly and steadily u will get their.
Feature wise they have everything and very powerful.
Charting as well as trading features are excellent.
SC dev team is very active providing update/bug fixes very quickly.
SC popularity is rising as well as their user-base.
Memory footprint is very low (The biggest + for SC compared to others) and performance is very stable.
Don't like ACSIL language(similar to C) used for coding Indicators and EA. It is little low level to my taste but powerful nonetheless.

Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with SC
 

Aman1

Well-Known Member
Hi Zerodha,

I have a suggestion for you.
You can continue to work with Pi for a free solution but you can create tie up with sierrachart and some datefeed provider to provide a option to power user.

Why Sierra Chart(SC)?

SC is as capable as some of the leading such as Ninjatrader and multicharts.
While the later may not be willing to work with a Indian broker the former will. because SC is relatively new and small player will accommodate your needs.

SC does not have one time huge upfront fee but rather monthly fee for license which will be very good for Indian users.

Ami may be a good charting platform but not a good trading platform.

their cost is 20$ to 40$ per month depending on packages.
if my understanding is correct then the 40$ package is not applicable as no Indian datafeed provider can utilize these features.

So it is $20 or $29 depending on package 1 or 3.

Currently GDFL is the only one supporting SC but they have some issues I heard.

All you have to do is integrate Sierrachart platform so that user can place orders to their respective Zerodha account directly from SC

You might have to pay them to do this integration but it should be one time cost.

Once done then end user can get a fully functional charting platform /integrated trading platform for 2.5K to 5k per month which is not bad at all.
(depending on various data feed packages)

Or you can negotiate with both parties and give one discounted price to the end user.

You can also check with Neotrades if they are interested as their pricing is little more competitive than GDFL.

I recently took trial of SC. Here are my review comments

SC:
UI wise not fancy and actually confusing to some extent will take some getting used to.
Learning curve is not that smooth but slowly and steadily u will get their.
Feature wise they have everything and very powerful.
Charting as well as trading features are excellent.
SC dev team is very active providing update/bug fixes very quickly.
SC popularity is rising as well as their user-base.
Memory footprint is very low (The biggest + for SC compared to others) and performance is very stable.
Don't like ACSIL language(similar to C) used for coding Indicators and EA. It is little low level to my taste but powerful nonetheless.

Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with SC
This is a good suggestion. Even IB has arrengements/plugins with others.
 

pinpoint159

Loves Coding and Trading.
Hi Zerodha,

I have a suggestion for you.
You can continue to work with Pi for a free solution but you can create tie up with sierrachart and some datefeed provider to provide a option to power user.

Why Sierra Chart(SC)?

SC is as capable as some of the leading such as Ninjatrader and multicharts.
While the later may not be willing to work with a Indian broker the former will. because SC is relatively new and small player will accommodate your needs.

SC does not have one time huge upfront fee but rather monthly fee for license which will be very good for Indian users.

Ami may be a good charting platform but not a good trading platform.

their cost is 20$ to 40$ per month depending on packages.
if my understanding is correct then the 40$ package is not applicable as no Indian datafeed provider can utilize these features.

So it is $20 or $29 depending on package 1 or 3.

Currently GDFL is the only one supporting SC but they have some issues I heard.

All you have to do is integrate Sierrachart platform so that user can place orders to their respective Zerodha account directly from SC

You might have to pay them to do this integration but it should be one time cost.

Once done then end user can get a fully functional charting platform /integrated trading platform for 2.5K to 5k per month which is not bad at all.
(depending on various data feed packages)

Or you can negotiate with both parties and give one discounted price
Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with SC
sierra charts Not possible, multiple issues, ordinary retailer wont pay large money for charts.
Also, GDFL/neo does not provide NSE cash data.

@zerodha, if possible try to rope someone like gdfl/neo which is also providing NSE cash data feed for a fee(not at astronomical price) till a stable version of PI comes...
 

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