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Zerodha,

I have never traded Nifty but want to start soon. I heard that margin requirement for intraday is lowest in Zerodha. Can I know what is the requirement for Nifty and MiniNifty as well.

Thanks
 

Zerodha

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Guys,

I have a doubt on commodity market.

Can anyone tell if you buy 100 kg potato ..how you make sure that potatoes have been bought ? You might say you'll receive a contract paper from exchange ...right ?

I'm worried here because potatoes may be bought on paper ...but may not exists really...like satyam case.

How does MCX solves this issue ?
Your question might sound silly to a bunch, but it is a serious issue..

When you trade through an exchange, the role of the exchange is to ensure that it guarantees settlement.. What you need to understand though is that, when you buy potato contract and someone sells potato contract, the potato may not really exist at that point... When you buy a future contract, you are saying that you will buy potato on the last day of the contract and the guy who sells has to deliver it then.. As long as you exit the contract before the expiry , you don't really have to take delivery of physical potatoes or sell the potatoes.. But if you intend to take delivery, exchange will guarantee you the potatoes, as it will assign this commitment to the person who shorted the contract..

In equity futures(India), all contracts are cash settled, whereas in MCX you actually have a physical settlement of the contract.. I remember a friend who had to take delivery of a few quintals of pepper long back because he forgot to square off the contract... Majority of MCX brokers(including us), don't let you hold position to take physical delivery of the contract.. Taking physical delivery is a big hassle for both you and the broker. Firstly, the delivery has to be done or taken from the warehouse, secondly as soon as the delivery is assigned, margin required suddenly shoots up and so on and forth...

What you can be assured is, trading through a regulated exchange guarantees you a settlement and that there is no scam happening. That said, the person who sells a potato contract or someone who is buying doesn't really require to have the potato or buy the potato..

The important thing though is to ensure that you trade only on regulated exchanges. A rampant practice today is trade with the so called forex guys or guys letting you trade on multiple exchanges using a MT4 platform or something similar.. Guys, this is probably the most illegal thing happening in the capital markets.. Most of the cases there is counterparty.. The guy who is running the platform is giving you an artificial price to buy or sell, he being the counterparty to your trades.. For him to make money, he needs to ensure that you loose.. He gives you such a high leverage that you invariable loose and if you still don't, they create artificial scenarios to take you out of your money.. You would have transferred this money to mauritius, middle east , UK or portugal.. These guys would not even have to pay taxes on the money they have received, because it would be done through phonie companies...
So ensure you trade with brokers who are members of exchanges....
 

Zerodha

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Hi zeodha,

writing after a long time.

please see the screenshot of icicidirect..

The advantage of this option strategy (nifty bearish strategy) is that spread Margin required is 1/3 rd of total actual required margins. As it maximum loss is approx 1500/- , so it will never get squared off due to shortage of M2M.
Now I can place 10 strategies from 1 lk. Same is for any share!!
only problems are very high brokerages.

Do u have any plan of such M2M spread benefits to options???....or already it has been implemented?
plz reply

thanx

IF U CANNOT READ SCREENSHOT PLZ DOWNLOAD THE BELOW ATTACHMENT
We give you the same spread benefits that you would get from icicidirect...

Also, as I had told you earlier we will be releasing a margin calculator on Zerodha Trader with our equity launch which will tell you the exact benefit before taking a position...
 

Zerodha

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Zerodha,

I have never traded Nifty but want to start soon. I heard that margin requirement for intraday is lowest in Zerodha. Can I know what is the requirement for Nifty and MiniNifty as well.

Thanks
I don't know if it is the lowest.. :) , there are people who will offer at lower margins.. Do understand Leverage is WMD(Weapons of mass destruction).. ;)..

Nifty intraday requirement around 11k and overnight 25k..

mini around 4.5k and 11k overnight...
 

jyotixxx

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We give you the same spread benefits that you would get from icicidirect...

Also, as I had told you earlier we will be releasing a margin calculator on Zerodha Trader with our equity launch which will tell you the exact benefit before taking a position...
Thanks ...waiting for that...may I know when to expect that?
 

sr114

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Commodity account opening not required, your equity login will automatically loose the 13906 and you can start using the platform...
Zerodha

so when are you going to provide this facility.

also 1 thing needed - intraday tick data export from Nest Plus charts - and that will of great help

sr
 
Commodity account opening not required, your equity login will automatically loose the 13906 and you can start using the platform...
phew .. !! a penny saved is a penny earned.. so I saved Rs. 300 today :). Now I can start looking up commodities and maybe paper trade till you guys declare everything ready :)
 
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