Zerodha....

[sumosanammain]

Amibroker + data feed do add to the costs.

So? Even if Zerodha provides charting, I doubt it could be like Amibroker.
It took Amibroker almost a decade of improvement to come to this level. Do any of the charting platforms provided by indian brokers provide system writing? Conditional triggers? spread over 20 different parameters?

The best you can ask for is higher ticks, which is there in NOW, so you can push it into Amibroker. Yes, there is a small monthly cost of about 300 odd rs, but if you are an active trader, does 300 rs matter?

If it does, then maybe you have to suspend trading till the time some broker provides a good charting platform free of cost.

BTW, I doubt many people use pirated version of Amibroker, so all you are paying is 300 odd rs per month.

 

[tradesimple_Raj]

Re: Zerodha....nowonline web based not running since yesterday

Hi everyone,

the web based version of nowonline is not running properly. Specifically, live quotes and streaming is not happening on Trade Express. I called up NSE support at 1800 22 0052 and they said there is no issue as such. Logging in from the alternative site now-online.in is not helping either.

I request someone from Zerodha to take up this issue with NSE/ Dotex.

Thanks,
Raj

 

[timepass]

i know many people here not agree with me about the challenge contest. but it is fact that it is not fruitful for them and also for us in long run..

I disagree. The challenge is a good idea. It's just that while rewarding a smaller segment, they shouldn't appear to be for the elite trader. Their concept is of a retailer, and any scheme they bring out should be designed to cover the majority of customers.

I think that after calculating the percentage of winning customers, they will now get down to percentage of business generated by each segment. The results will tell them exactly which segment they need to keep buttered up better. Maybe their next scheme will be based on turnover/business generated by each customer, rather than winning percentage. That makes more sense coming from a broker. That is, if any discount scheme is brought about. Or they could offer .... well, the ideas a endless, maybe they should ask a consultant in Retail trade

BTW, I doubt many people use pirated version of Amibroker, so all you are paying is 300 odd rs per month.

 

[GTji]

Now having this facility or you are using some tool??? as I know directly we cant do.
please tell which tool using for data transfer from now to ami? is backfill possible? how many scrips can add?

i know many people here not agree with me about the challenge contest. but it is fact that it is not fruitful for them and also for us in long run.
For me choosing and keeping our funds at a broker is like choosing a Equity for long-term. That's why so concern, b/c don't want anything bad will happen.

NOT talking about their financial viability, I know they can provide cheaper plans than RKSV. Actually The Challenge contest was not a good business decision b/c of many complications at different ends - people mindset, operations, technology infrastructure investments, referral marketing & long term perspective, and also was a result of incorrect analysis of statistics outcomes. Hoping they will learn from past, and do something better quickly.


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I use excel to transfer data from NOW to AB and it works perfectly without any problems at all. You must be aware of Sudris's tool, which is also essentially the same thing (NOW-Excel-AB). There do seem to be many more such tools/methods available on the internet which transfer NOW data to Amibroker or Metastock etc.

 

[vikrit]

gtji ,
i completely agree with u. i use esignal with ninjatrader coz every platform available here has inaccurate data. the highs/lows for almost every bar are wrong in sski/pib etc.
in any case a discount broker shud not start offering full fledged services esle it will result in higher costs eventually.
those who need everything under the sun need to move to full fledged brokers. now is a perfect platform and it shud remain that way without the added nonsense of charting. its speed is way beyond what any other platform can match. it sole purpose is high speed execution and thats what it shud be used for.
and for thsoe who crib about costs of separate data feed, there is a cost for doing any business. no businessman starts a venture without having sufficient funds.
i have yet to meet a full time trader who trades without a proper accurate data feed !

pardon me for my ignorance about esignal and ninjatrader . Plz tell me what is your data source, and if it is that much reliable then provide 8th may flash trade whole day data for nifty future only OR post that day tick data chart for same.

Please also provide a full fledged broker name who provide good charting software with correct tick data.

I will advice you, as costs doesn't a matter for you then buy official and most reliable data from nse - checkout rates http://nseindia.com/supra_global/content/dotex/data_products.htm.

By the way i was talking about small trader's cost. And agree with you that there is a cost for doing a business, but who was talking about business? Anyways hope if ever you will start any business with sufficient funds, you will get all success. if considering trading as 'business' then please tell require sufficient amount acc. to you b/c 'sufficient' doesn't clear how much, it will help new ones....

 

[Smart_trade]

We are not talking about Zerodha challenge OR better service but we want both.....no trader will opt for refund of brokerage in lieu of better service, as no one trades for getting the brokerage back....but it acts as some kind of performance level measure which the traders continuously try to improve. If someone makes 40 % on his capital , few thousands refund doesnt make monetary gains for him...but it is a kind of winning the competition or a challenge and for that the prize money is not important , winning the contest is much more important.

Smart_trade

 

[timepass]

We are not talking about Zerodha challenge OR better service but we want both.....no trader will opt for refund of brokerage in lieu of better service, as no one trades for getting the brokerage back....but it acts as some kind of performance level measure which the traders continuously try to improve. If someone makes 40 % on his capital , few thousands refund doesnt make monetary gains for him...but it is a kind of winning the competition or a challenge and for that the prize money is not important , winning the contest is much more important.

Smart_trade

Granted. But is there any objection to the losers getting a consolation prize ??

 

[sumosanammain]

We are not talking about Zerodha challenge OR better service but we want both.....no trader will opt for refund of brokerage in lieu of better service, as no one trades for getting the brokerage back....but it acts as some kind of performance level measure which the traders continuously try to improve. If someone makes 40 % on his capital , few thousands refund doesnt make monetary gains for him...but it is a kind of winning the competition or a challenge and for that the prize money is not important , winning the contest is much more important.

Smart_trade

But what if I made 40% on a capital of 2000 rs

 

[GTji]

We are not talking about Zerodha challenge OR better service but we want both.....no trader will opt for refund of brokerage in lieu of better service, as no one trades for getting the brokerage back....but it acts as some kind of performance level measure which the traders continuously try to improve. If someone makes 40 % on his capital , few thousands refund doesnt make monetary gains for him...but it is a kind of winning the competition or a challenge and for that the prize money is not important , winning the contest is much more important.

Smart_trade

Brokerage that is generated from my trades calculates to almost 18-20% of my predicted annual profits, which definitely is lot of money, which I would love to get back as it does add substantially to my profits

 

[timepass]

Brokerage that is generated from my trades calculates to almost 18-20% of my predicted annual profits, which definitely is lot of money, which I would love to get back as it does add substantially to my profits

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