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Raj232

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SC strikes down Section 57 of Aadhaar Act which allows pvt entities to demand Aadhaar to access services so no more linking
So just like so many other cards (postal ID card, Voter ID card, etc etc ) .. AAdhaar is also ... just another card ??
 

Riskyman

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So just like so many other cards (postal ID card, Voter ID card, etc etc ) .. AAdhaar is also ... just another card ??
Nope. You will need it for your PAN/Income Tax filing etc. Also if you are using any government resources like subsides etc.
See the difference is that Aadhar can be verified online(by govt agencies) unlike voter id/postal id etc. And its its really helpful in identifying the individual quickly. In case of an accident, the police can identify you with your thumb impression and get in touch with you kin as an example.
 

Raj232

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Those having two voter ID cards from two places would have to suffer jail a term of a year and a fine or both, if caught:DD. The Election Commission had issued voter ID cancellation form for the first time. Forms are available online and at the election office.

Dont get caught!
what if we have not received the Voter ID card either, who knows whats in the Election records. They should have checked for duplicates...:)
 

Raj232

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Not happy with the Adhaar judgement
what is different now ?
Can PAN not be used for profiling /Surveillance??
Is PAN is foolproof /secure and does not leak??
Stupid people all around
Now we have one more document to deal with no apparent advantage.
I was hoping we can discontinue PAN, VoterId and many other cards and just have one document Adhaar.
The Voter, PAN, and Aadhar should be merged as a single card after linking :)
Govt itself has not linked all its cards that it has issued .. what can the citizen do ? .. :)
 
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Riskyman

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what if we have not received the Voter ID card either, who knows whats in the Election records. They should have checked for duplicates...:)
The law is very clear. That you cannot apply for the second card when you already have one. Therefore, the onus is on you to stick to the law.
why they dont check is another question altogther bhai :) . Lets call it babugiri.
 

bpr

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But PAN doesnt have your biometrics. Thats a difference.
PAN is needed only by those who have income beyond a certain limit. So even if you can profile with PAN, its only a very small number of people in India who actually have PAN and pay Income tax. Less than 2% of the population
With Biometics/aadhar, you can profile the whole country. what they eat, where they go, how much they spend and on what... Data is the new oil and anyone with this kind of data can seriously misuse it. More so if this data is easily hackable. If its hackable then biometrics in the database can be interchanged/erased etc etc.
I guess the supreme court may have taken the right decision. Just my thoughts.

Aadhar intially was envisaged so that subsidies and other govt benefits go directly to the end user. I guess it still serves its purpose as supreme court has withheld it that aadhar will be needed for using funds from govt corpus
You are contradicting yourself.
if biometrics is the problem then how can you support it for giving govt benefits to the poor?
We have count less cards before ration card /BPL card ? whats wrong with that ??
How can biometrics/adhaar be justified for giving benifits to the poor and not to other people for other usecases ??
if it works for them then it would work for others too?

What you stated initially is exactly the problem.
PAN should have been mandatory and we would not need adhaar.
The reality is now we have 95% people having adhaar and may be 5-10% people having PAN
Thats exactly the reason we need Adhaar.
I am not supporting biomentrics but we need universal id/auth mechanism.

today you are profiled by Google/Facebook they know more things about you than you know yourself.Put some laws and secure who and what can access data from Adhaar and how they use it but limiting its usecase to govt is not the answer.

The amount of money and time we wasted on adhaar as a nation is going to waste.

BTW you are still needed to link adhaar to PAN for tax and PAN is linked to all so yes theoretically you can be still be tracked/hacked nothing is changing.
 
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Riskyman

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In case of an accident, the police can identify you with your thumb impression and get in touch with you kin as an example.
Some months ago, in my home town, An old man was found wandering around in the bus station. The locals reported him to the chowki. The cops realized that this old man had very little memory of who/from where he was. They second guessed his family may have done his Aadhaar. Thankfully, they found his record online and they returned him home.
 

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