Experiments in Technical Analysis

[amarnath]

Hello

My newbie naive mind wonders how come suddenly amaranth has developed motherly feeling for us newbie’s and is trying to protect us from Karthik and his evil macd designs

Maybe it bothers him that Why does this "useless" stuff getting more than 1000 posts, specially since most of the 34 Great Threads started by amarnath could not make past a handful posts.

Or maybe it bothers him that newbie’s are spending (should it be wasting) precious time trying to learn, rather than subscribe to great advisory services like the ones being offered by his great holiness.

Thanks a lot Amarnath, for protecting us newbie’s from people like Karthik and his followers like Kalyan

Out of last 70 odd posts over last 7-8 days on this thread Amarnath has made 30 posts (which is more than 3-4 times the average no of posts he has made on his own threads till date ).

Well thats quite a few posts just to trash this thread. Thanks a lot for your efforts. Where would we newbie's be without vigilant seniors like you

Hope you don’t get soo many clients for your advisory services to keep you soo busy, that it will not allow you to protect us the way you are doing on this thread.

Keep it up, keep doing more of this stuff ...

Newbee when you really need 1000s of post to understand this is useless experimentation you are really a brilliant learner with peanut sized brain

And you feel i am trying to trash this thread essentially NO but trying to save before your newbies account get trashed into margin call before this experiment develop some useful stuff

And i dont need any F**k newbies who dont understand this business and prefer experimentation and for u i added screen shot on my current profit on commodities and ask your seniors to post any screen shot of their real efforts ???? even if they are testing on a demo account

Please avoid using such language here!

 

[uma_k]

Re: Digital Filters - Metastock Codes

Low Pass Filters: ( FATL , SATL )

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0.22567648*Ref(C,-0)
+0.21925142*Ref(C,-1)

... ... ... etc.

+0.00151462*Ref(C,-23)
-0.00109457*Ref(C,-24)

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High Pass Filter:

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1.98079920*Ref(C,-0)
-0.13807718*Ref(C,-1)

... ... ... etc.

+0.00250849*Ref(C,-915)
-0.00914488*Ref(C,-916)

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Hi Amarnath,

I am no expert in TA nor in Maths, physics, electronics etc. The above calculation you have given for the filters is quite lengthy though simple. I want to know whether the calculation is claculated upto Ref(C, -916) or continues further. If to be continued then to what extent?

Also, I want to know how to apply these filters to the price data and what conclusions can be drawn.

I hope you will not mind answering these questions, may be they are very simple. I am very new, so I am asking these questions. I did not find much about the filters in this forum except your posts. Kindly help me understand.

*** Uma ***

 

[amarnath]

Re: Digital Filters - Metastock Codes

Hi Amarnath,

I am no expert in TA nor in Maths, physics, electronics etc. The above calculation you have given for the filters is quite lengthy though simple. I want to know whether the calculation is claculated upto Ref(C, -916) or continues further. If to be continued then to what extent?

Also, I want to know how to apply these filters to the price data and what conclusions can be drawn.

I hope you will not mind answering these questions, may be they are very simple. I am very new, so I am asking these questions. I did not find much about the filters in this forum except your posts. Kindly help me understand.

*** Uma ***

I am too not expert in above said subject's but i have common sense to design trading system's rather than wasting time with macd like other's here

It continues further

you can google word At&CF (Adaptive Trend & Cycles Following). to find more

AT&CF Indicators

AT&CF Indicators are eight technical indicators which are based on DSP (Digital Signal Processing) theory and can give you an exact formalized market description without any delay. The indicators are digital filters and can supply you with precise signals for your trading decisions. This precision is unavailable for based on averages indicators (which are always late) and used in classic trading analysis.


• FATL - Fast Adaptive Trend Line;
• RFTL - Reference Fast Trend Line;
• SATL - Slow Adaptive trend line;
• RSTL - Reference Slow Trend Line;
• FTLM - Fast Trend Line Momentum;
• STLM - Slow Trend Line Momentum;
• RBCI - Range Bound Channel Index;
• PCCI - Perfect Commodity Channel Index


Main principles to be observed at the concrete trading algorithm development are the following:


Trade only in the direction of the prevailing tendency the direction of which is specified by "slow" adaptive trend line SATL;

To consider dynamic characteristic-s of the "fast" and "slow" trend represented by the FTLM and STLM indicators;

To use information on what area of the values (neutral, overbought, oversold, local maximum and local minimum) is the sum of prevailing market cycles (index of RBCI) in chosen by means of frequency range spectral analysis;

To take oscillator signals as secondary ones in cases when trend indicators are evidence of the very marked bearish or bullish tendency availability;

To take oscillator signals as main ones in cases when trend indicators give signals about absence of the very marked tendency;

To use flexible system of protective stop orders based on the values of RBCI, PCCI indexes and volatility values of the "fast" market oscillations.


Main rules for the above mentioned instruments interpretation are the following:

Growing SATL line is evidence of the bullish trend on the market. The point of the reversal beginning of the bearish trend is considered the point of the local minimum of SATL. The point of finishing the reversal of the bearish trend is the point where the sign of STLM changed from minus into plus.

Falling SATL line is evidence of the bearish trend on the market. The point of the bullish trend reversal beginning is considered the point of the local SATL maximum. The point of finishing the bullish trend reversal is the point where STLM sign changed from plus into minus.

Close to horizontal the form of SATL is evidence of the neutral tendency.

STLM interpretation requires special attention. Positive value of STLM is evidence of the bullish trend and the negative one testifies the bearish trend. STLM is an advance indicator. Local minimum of STLM always precedes the local minimum of SATL. Local maximum of STLM always precedes the local maximum of SATL. Achievement by STLM its points of extremum is necessary but insufficient condition for the achievement by the curve of SATL the top or the bottom. Growing STLM at growing SATL is evidence of the bullish trend acceleration. Horizontal and positive STLM at growing SATL is evidence of the set bullish trend. The more absolute the value of STLM, the more potential the bullish trend has. Falling STLM at falling SATL testifies the bearish trend acceleration.




Horizontal and negative STLM at growing SATL testifies the bearish trend setting. The more absolute value of STLM, the more potential the bearish trend has.




Growing "fast" FATL trend line at the growing "slow" SATL trend line is evidence of the strong bullish trend on the market.

Falling "fast" line of FATL at the falling "slow" line of SATL is evidence of the strong bearish trend on the market.

Growing FATL line at falling SATL line is evidence of either bullish correction at the bearish trend or consolidation.

Falling FATL line at growing SATL line is evidence of either bearish correction at the bullish trend or consolidation.

The beginning or resuming the movement in one direction of FATL and SATL lines give signals either on the tendency reversal or finishing the correction and resuming price movement in the SATL direction.

 

[amarnath]

Hello everyone,

i have been observing this long cold war between Amarnath Vs karthik.

Hey, Amar, Karthik is doining a good job! He never claimed that he is teaching his Secret methods or Holy grail to othe members. His aim is to initiate fire of T.A. among us. Through his posts, one would be inspired to research on own with depth.

He provides a basic platform to all new members and others. And you see karthik from wrong view and that's why you contradict him.
Change your view and u will surely appreciate his efforts for inspiring others towards T.A.
And after all, after years of hard work , with so much capital used, few find very good methods to trade. It would be very hard to be that LARGE-HEARTED to disclose them free of cost.

This thread is i beleive for inspiration and experimentation which could lead to an accidental discovery!

I am not negating any one of u , just change ur view points, rest all will be clear.

Take care,
Winston

Another one question to Karthik when he is real trader and good one why not he can disclose his own trading system, when he is having so great contributing mind ? to share his ideas just to experiment?? rather than real system if he have one ? if he is trading truely on own account ??

 

[karthikmarar]

Hello

My newbie naive mind wonders how come suddenly amaranth has developed motherly feeling for us newbies and is trying to protect us from Karthik and his evil macd designs

Maybe it bothers him that Why does this "useless" stuff getting more than 1000 posts, specially since most of the 34 Great Threads started by amarnath could not make past a handful posts.

Or maybe it bothers him that newbies are spending (should it be wasting) precious time trying to learn, rather than subscribe to great advisory services like the ones being offered by his great holiness.

Thanks a lot Amarnath, for protecting us newbies from people like Karthik and his followers like Kalyan

Out of last 70 odd posts over last 7-8 days on this thread Amarnath has made 30 posts (which is more than 3-4 times the average no of posts he has made on his own threads till date ).

Well thats quite a few posts just to trash this thread. Thanks a lot for your efforts. Where would we newbie's be without vigilant seniors like you

Hope you dont get soo many clients for your advisory services to keep you soo busy, that it will not allow you to protect us the way you are doing on this thread.

Keep it up, keep doing more of this stuff ...

If everybody learns TA and start trading better what Tipsters will do...poor Guys

Hi all,

I will upload my pre market calls and out here on this below link and clients will get it in time and non clients may get it delayed and no intraday alerts and calls and modifications avaliable for non clients

http://www.4shared.com/dir/4586309/d61e8dc3/MCI.html

On POA authorised accts i charge only % of profit from equity high to high per mo which is professional praticise and nothing i am doing anything illegally , i know what i am doing well and what i need to do for my client in professional manner and wether u trade u r own money or u r neibhours money who bother here IMO Trading is a COMPETATION and NOT TEAM SPORTS thanks for being a perpetual looser

Hi all,

I am planning to offer free advisory on Gold , Silver and crudeoil . I will update real time calls on Yahoo messanger and i will update outlook for log keeping on a blog or site which i tell you later when i am prepared .

.............
I will set a yahoo messanger today and create a id for this purpose and let you know all.

 

[amarnath]

If everybody learns TA and start trading better what Tipsters will do...poor Guys

I dont share my edge like your silly experimentation and i have gut to post real trades i did DO u ??

Managing forex and commodities accounts of NRI is not illegal

Yes i offered some calls for free when i find time like u but i dont waste my time in silly experimentation like u with age old indiactor and act like proclaimed expert?

I proved i am not poor guy like you with today screen shot from odin and show us proof you are real trader

 

[amarnath]

If everybody learns TA and start trading better what Tipsters will do...poor Guys

LOL even if everybody learn TA or FA unless you dont understand were does positive edge lies you cant fetch money consistently off from any markets

 

[karthikmarar]

posting some screen shot does not prove it is yours... maybe a copy paste stuff like AT&CF which anybody could have done..

I have never trumpeted that I am a expert like you have done all over the forum..

Neither do i have to prove anything to you... if you are looking for a free system..that is a different story

mmmmm... maybe you are running out of clients and panicking ......

 

[newbee]

Newbee when you really need 1000s of post to understand this is useless experimentation you are really a brilliant learner with peanut sized brain

And you feel i am trying to trash this thread essentially NO but trying to save before your newbies account get trashed into margin call before this experiment develop some useful stuff

And i dont need any F**k newbies who dont understand this business and prefer experimentation and for u i added screen shot on my current profit on commodities and ask your seniors to post any screen shot of their real efforts ???? even if they are testing on a demo account

No one asked for u to show your graphics skills

Its a common technique, flame a popular thread, then show fake trading records to attract private messages and then merrily fleece the newbies

Your abusive language does not provoke me, it just shows up your upbringing.

anyway as i already said, keep it up, the more you talk, the more it shows

 

[newbee]

Re: Digital Filters

Also, I want to know how to apply these filters to the price data and what conclusions can be drawn.

*** Uma ***

Hello Uma

Heres a link to the article, hope it helps.

New Adaptive Method of Following the Tendency and Market Cycles


Thanks
nb