Going With The 60min Flow!!!

Which Futures do u all trade with real Money?

  • MiniNifty

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  • Hdil

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • JP asso

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Satyen

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Satya
It is surprising to me to note that monday opening will decide our SAR .. rather Our predeterminded SAR should decide what shall we do when market opens on monday ...
Our action is always based on opening respective to our SAR
What action needs to be taken is being decided not the SAR.
yes komal you are right i just wanted to say my views ... imagine a situation when we open GAP up and then move towards low of this todays consolidation then i think we should change our SAR

Thanks you views

Regards
Satya
 

rkkarnani

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Dear RK these are my views :

seems to be i have over looked/was wrong about last bars movement thanks RK and komal
but if last bar moved towards low of consolidation then break out then it would beter i think

Regards
Satya
Yes Satya, agree totally about breaking the low and then breaking the high would be much more desirable and comfortable to trade than the present situation.
 

KomaL2099

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yes komal you are right i just wanted to say my views ... imagine a situation when we open GAP up and then move towards low of this todays consolidation then i think we should change our SAR

Thanks you views

Regards
Satya
lets get down as simple as we can ..
Just tell me what will you do if on monday market open above 2868+15=2883.
Will you apply Gap rule of first 5min high+20 or not. Or for you SAR stands at 2932+15.

In more simple terms the straightforward question is What is current SAR 2932+15 OR 2868+15 OR shall we decide it when market opens on monday.
 

VJAY

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my SAR is 2884 now for monday.

VJAY
 

VJAY

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my SAR is 2884 now for monday.

VJAY

Hai,
this sheet is my last one month paper trade in 60 min.I am trading with real in miniflow.seniours help me to improve my trading.
Thanks SAM for his excell sheet
Regards
VJAY

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Satya, U have given tremendous effort to clear things about a Pivot. But Komal seems to be asking about our action today (14th Nov) !
What would be our action if 4 PM bar went upto 2893, or any level breaching the high of 3 PM bar + room.... would we go long! Your answer is no as seems from your posts. But for a sideways move if we need 3 bars or more concecutively than you are correct , otherwise we would be going long above 3 PM high. Just trying to see the chart from a distance : After 11 AM the price has tried to cross 2868 but failed in all the bars there after...12 Noon bar high 2868(retraces to 2805), 1 PM bar high 2846(retraces to 2788), 2 PM bar high 2867(retraces to 2771), 3 PM bar high 2868(retraces to 2770) we have lower lows in all these bars where as all bars fail to cross the high...now if the 4 PM bar crossed this hurdle with a room (filter) why should we wait for tomorrow?
I may be erring by differentiating between the situation at 10 and 11 AM bars and the above mentioned bars but thats the way I see things. At 10 and 11 only two bars are involved and one of them is just 5 minutes bar.
Please post your views on the scenario once again, does not matter if you still feel that we wait till Monday. We are all in learning process still. :)
Dear Rk/Satya/Komal -
Thanks for the wonderful discussion & perspective..... Really a lot of value to the Thread.........

If the high of 3:30pm bar had taken high of the congestion between (12pm and 3pm) + room , I would have taken the SAR on Friday itself.......

In my view the congestion between 12pm and 3pm on Friday does indeed make me alert. Till 2pm I am complacent and waiting for the orig SAR to be taken out. .... However the 3pm bar makes me sit up and have a look at things...... (Especially the price arrest at 2869 thrice).... So after the completion of 3pm bar my SAR moved down to 2869+room......

Of course , now this is past........
Going forward Gap (in our view) will have to be managed :):):)
regards
Inspire.
 

Satyen

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lets get down as simple as we can ..
Just tell me what will you do if on monday market open above 2868+15=2883.
Will you apply Gap rule of first 5min high+20 or not. Or for you SAR stands at 2932+15.

In more simple terms the straightforward question is What is current SAR 2932+15 OR 2868+15 OR shall we decide it when market opens on monday.
:D ok will wait for monday................

again may or may not update my SAR at right time it was all about pivot discusion not who is right or wrong

Thanks for all the discusion C u on monday

Regards
Satya
 

beethoven

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lets get down as simple as we can ..
Just tell me what will you do if on monday market open above 2868+15=2883.
Will you apply Gap rule of first 5min high+20 or not. Or for you SAR stands at 2932+15.

In more simple terms the straightforward question is What is current SAR 2932+15 OR 2868+15 OR shall we decide it when market opens on monday.
Hi Komal,

Seems you have been bitten by this 60 min bug badly, like me, haha. I have been away for three days courtesy my internet provider and was feeling like "fish out of water".

Have not gone thru all posts but your post and the chart above by Satya.

Let me try to reply;

1. I presume you guys are short.
2. The SAR according to me is now at 2868 area.
3. If we gap up to above 2868+15 area then we do not have a SAR point. All our actions are based on finding a SAR asap. So Gap rules come into picture.
4. Now if there is a severe gap down say 100 points or so then also watch out for reversal at 5 min + 20 as we had a downturn for some time now and price down move may be exhausted and looking for a reversal. If minor gap down then wait for a pivot to form.

Hope I have replied. Pl let me know if my logic is flawed in anyway.

Happy trading

Bee
 
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KomaL2099

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:D ok will wait for monday................

again may or may not update my SAR at right time it was all about pivot discusion not who is right or wrong

Thanks for all the discusion C u on monday

Regards
Satya
Hi Satya
Honelstly I didnt started the discussion to bring to books who is right or wrong.
The sole purpose of whole exercise is to see things clearly and in better way.
I am extremely sorry if I have hurt you or anyone .. didnt mean it.

Thanks
KomaL
 

columbus

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The gap between 25-DMA and 50-DMA is increasing ,rather rapidly.The daily
and weekly charts above support this.
 
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