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saivenkat

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@Raunak bhai


I dont know the nuances of technical' s which you and Rajput bhai speak off.. but from layman point of view, i raise my doubt, that which helps me to learn more than for any arguments.. okay.

Banks have been in amazing run. Now, think this. If markets have to tank, why is so much delivery based buying happening in banking sector

Earlier you were bearish on market,.. what i ask you is friend.. Have not the buying took place at that point of time in the banking sector.. If so why u were bearish.?

P. S Only by asking questions to my master i can learn.

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SwingKing

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@Raunak bhai


I dont know the nuances of technicals which you speak off.. but from layman point of view, i raise my doubt, that which helps me to learn more than for arguments.. okay.




Earlier you were bearish on market,.. what i ask you is friend.. Have not the buying took place at that point of time in the banking sector.. If so why u were bearish.?

P. S Only by asking questions to my master i can learn.

Regards
Saivenkat:)
Sai,

Go back to my thread. I have written a detailed post on why I was bearish and why I am bullish now. Don't get confused between the trading frame words I use. That is, Swing and Positional.

Tc
 

SwingKing

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Ha..ha.. your respond at the speed of thought.. I know you would be referring to that thread.. yet some thing i am not clear in it.. will post later.

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Saivenkat
You need to read carefully and regularly dear. One cannot just jump on one post and draw conclusions. Markets are dynamic and with every post opinions change. For me, its better not to marry an opinion. :)

Tc
 

SwingKing

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Go Long above 5447 ---5445 proving good resistance even on Friday when we had Gap up opening after nifty slipped this was proving to be a good resistance. Short now for the gap closure. Stop loss 5450. Target 5405.
Hey Nimish ..

Good to see your posts.

Tc
 

SwingKing

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Hi raunak sir,

Partially agree with you.

This is my point for last few trading sessions. Smart Money never comes at top.

In smart money we generally look at the flow of DIIs and FIIs. But for the last few months, the way they are buying and selling is totally messed up. In the last bear run, we had FIIS as the buyers and DIIs as the sellers. And in this bull run at the top we had FIIs as the sellers and DIIs as the buyers. Which is little suspicious that what they are doing. There buying and selling activity for last few months is way beyond understanding.

For last 5-6 weeks we are in rangebound conditions with high volumes. This suggests me that there is some correction due. Whenever i have seen volume increasing at the top, it is always accompanied by correction. And also when we try to speculate nifty or any other stock, we try to look in the time of current or next expiry, where as this buying in delivery is for much bigger time frame. Only banking and telecome sector has shown strength, but we cannot forget that there are many sectors which are still weak. Metal, Auto, Oil which i believe will get weaker in coming time, Reliance the major constituent is still weak, State bank is also one of the major constituent giving me sell signals. Significantly, i have seen volumes giving me sell signal on nifty also.

Other thing is that when ever we rise so much or fall too much, we talk about support and resistance, but evidently it is always broken. Like when we were at top, every support was considered as a point to go long, but finally we settled at 4750. When we were at bottom, we were looking for 4400 at 4850, and every resitance was broken to take us to 5550.

For me it is distribution going on now. And also i am short on some active positions, with stoploss. Even if they hit my trailing stoploss, i would be in profit. But taking a long position is bit uncomfy. I am expecting these levels, but with some stair case pattern. Lets c, if i get some signal to short, cover or go long now.
Nicely written Dear

Tc
 

SwingKing

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Ha..ha.. your respond at the speed of thought.. I know you would be referring to that thread.. yet some thing i am not clear in it.. will post later.

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Saivenkat
Sai,

I still owe you a post regarding trending day. I'll do it in this week. Just got caught up with few things.

Tc
 

crown

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Nice (pictorial) analysis dear.

Well, anything is possible Rajputz. Sky is the limit.

In this case, 5050 or 5100 or 4800 is anybody's guess. Markets generally don't break down so easily. Especially after the kind of flows we have seen. Since last time, there are structurally two themes different this time around.

a) Banks have been in amazing run. Now, think this. If markets have to tank, why is so much delivery based buying happening in banking sector? Smart money never comes in at the top. Furthermore, there are some other sectors like Telecom, Consumer durables which are beginning to show leadership.

b) Don't you think any one with even 5 days of TA experience is predicting a crash? When this happens, usually markets don't correct. If it were so easy, then probably the concept of permanent job would have been wiped off long back.

It's anybody's guess dear. At the end of the day, we need to go with the flow. That's where we can make profits.

Tc
namaste Raunak Bhai jee

Big Bro,

I have done good effort on my part to analyse the past data of Nifty and scripts of Nifty and Junior Nifty. I tried to give specific attention near the area, where markets had strong downmoves or crashes. Despite my best efforts (though I am not yet satisfied with my understanding as well as intelligence to be sufficient enough to understand such things so easily), I couldn't found any significant indication in charts which can denote that a crash is about to occur. And that gave me a very useful understanding that one must not look for crashes in the market. Usually crashes occur due to some thing beyond technical analysis, like news and some immediate and unexpected incidents or something else. But I am somewhat clear in my understanding that one can not identify the crashes merely on the basis of technical analysis and some other info or technique or knowledge is required for this.
And, while at present, I am only having some knowledge of TA, I think it will be much better for any TA to think of it in terms of resistance and support. This thing was highlighted many times by Praveen Bhai.

And, in my opinion the market is very likely to face the resistance around 5500 wherein I can think of entering short for a target of 5400, which can be extended in case supportive indications surface.

Thanks bhai for your guidance and support
 

saivenkat

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Sai,

I still owe you a post regarding trending day. I'll do it in this week. Just got caught up with few things.

Tc
My God, Even i forgot it.. How you keep track of all things.. Awesome. But every time i visit the forum.. as everyday passes by, i become enriched with knowledge than before, all credits go to people like you, who continuously share things and experience here.

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Saivenkat
 
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