NIFTY 50 future TRENDS

[sudoku1]

Yes, you cant short them. But that doesnt mean youcant sell them. Which is precisely what index funds will be forced to do after the main European index, the Stoxx 50, announced that it will be removing battered SocGen, Intesa and Unicredit from its list of constituents (as well as that anachronism of a cellphone maker Nokia). Lets hope that European HFTs jump in to prop the bid. Oh wait, unlike our farce of a levitation machine, Europe does not have HFT, which is why following every overnightsession it is our vacuum tubes patriotic duty to buy everything up into theclose with a millisecond holding pattern, only to dump it to other algos, and ultimately retail and ETF hands. And since every loser has an equal and opposite winner, the companies that will replace the aforementioned sinking ships are Unilever, LVMH, National Grid and Air Liquide.

 

[EagleOne]

Hi,
let me attempt to re-direct the arguments.
Our arena of analysis extends to the whole world. but we are declaring only 2-3 lots of trading instruments.
I am at even lower scale, so i am wondering, if i ever some to 10 lots, what would i have to analyze? At least the situation on moon .

Vinst, I don't know about others here, but I discuss the world economy as pure academics. Granted, its sickness may eventually affect me personally and my social surroundings, like the rest of us, in the short or long run. But, being a day trader, my trading remains unaffected from its going-ons. I trade according to the going-ons of the chart. I don't carry overnight positions as a rule, and investing in equities - strict no-no.

BTW, whether you deal in 1 or 100 lots, makes no difference. It is just a matter of scaling up/down your position size vis-a-vis your ledger. However, the rules to trade profitably must remain same. And they are always personal. If knowing the situation on the moon happens to be one of them, so be it.

 

[2021]

Hi,
let me attempt to re-direct the arguments.
Our arena of analysis extends to the whole world. but we are declaring only 2-3 lots of trading instruments.
I am at even lower scale, so i am wondering, if i ever some to 10 lots, what would i have to analyze? At least the situation on moon .

I bought these 6 lots on last friday as gamble since everyone in market were negative and people were looking at 4000 levels. For me money was supposed to be double or nothing. As for trading I'm not a full timer trader but a positional trader and a long term investor who invest on fundamentals. Current market is walking on fire for positional traders so I've nothing to do, I've sold all my investment stocks a long time back. I feel it's not time to buy stocks and FnO is not my cup of tea.

As for mutual funds, It's a buy on dips and sell on rise for me since I've money at disposal and I ain't 'future and option' guy. This money is of no use and what a fixed deposit gives me in a year I get in 2-3 rounds of buying and redeeming mutual funds. So A certain part of money I use in mutual funds. Keeping money at 4% per annum simple interest in bank is of no use.

 

[EagleOne]

Yes, you cant short them. But that doesnt mean youcant sell them. Which is precisely what index funds will be forced to do after the main European index, the Stoxx 50, announced that it will be removing battered SocGen, Intesa and Unicredit from its list of constituents (as well as that anachronism of a cellphone maker Nokia). Lets hope that European HFTs jump in to prop the bid. Oh wait, unlike our farce of a levitation machine, Europe does not have HFT, which is why following every overnightsession it is our vacuum tubes patriotic duty to buy everything up into theclose with a millisecond holding pattern, only to dump it to other algos, and ultimately retail and ETF hands. And since every loser has an equal and opposite winner, the companies that will replace the aforementioned sinking ships are Unilever, LVMH, National Grid and Air Liquide.

They do sell them and buy back at their convinence using high leverage and inside networking, Sudoku. Short-selling is just a technical term. Otherwise, how would they corner the markets for their FII masters? They are cheap pimps who live off gullible people's hard earned money by promising them the moon. In reality they throw some peanuts at them once a while, keeping all the cashewnuts for themselves all the time. When the going goes rough, well, no peanuts for the customers but my stack of cashewnuts? Hands off, baby. I'll travel business class, no matter what! And, oh, thanks for ignoring the implications of the fine-print a little below where you signed!

I also made the mistake trusting these MF goons when I came into financial markets last year. Six months later, when I got a little wiser, I asked them to return my money. They did, minus 10%!
Never again. Never again will I forget what my Grandpa used to say: the only money that is yours is what is in your possesion - in your pocket!

 

[EagleOne]

Don't worry about that, Eagle. We understand each other.
You made the comment about alcohol in addressing one of my comments, so I replied. And yes, I don't look at it any differently--drinking alcohol or drinking gasoline. Regardless, I'm sure we do not hold each other in disdain for our views. LOL, something tells me we won't be attending the same New Year's party.

Me neither, bud. Both Alcohol and Gasoline exist to do the same job - varoom! varoom! :lol:
(Engines happen to be different, of course! )

You invite me to your New Year's party, you won't find a soberer soul other than me! And I am serious.

As far holding anyone in disdain for one's views, I will let Voltaire speak for me: I may disagree with you, sir. But, God be my witness, I shall fight till death for your right to disagree.

Now, time for the music over a chilled bottle of Tuborg!

Take care

 

[4xpipcounter]

Gotta love ya, Eagle. I'd bait you just hear to hear you talk.

I'm glad we have a mutual respect and a mutual understanding.

Are you adding that Tuborg in your tank as a fuel injector cleaner--varoom! varoom! lol

Me neither, bud. Both Alcohol and Gasoline exist to do the same job - varoom! varoom! :lol:
(Engines happen to be different, of course! )

You invite me to your New Year's party, you won't find a soberer soul other than me! And I am serious.

As far holding anyone in disdain for one's views, I will let Voltaire speak for me: I may disagree with you, sir. But, God be my witness, I shall fight till death for your right to disagree.

Now, time for the music over a chilled bottle of Tuborg!

Take care

 

[deadbrain]

What makes stock market work is Big M(money, inflows vs outflows). Trends signals keep changing, so no one is perfect, no one is sure,everyone gets few hits and few misses. For every seller there is a buyer and both at the same time think they are smart. people who are making money are the ones who have learnt to fly in the direction of wind, rest all AND ALL is mere guess work. Enjoy the rides... and those who do not want to get trapped by negative sentiments/discussions, just buy on dips and stay invested for long term, history is the proof.

 

[Taurus1]

They do sell them and buy back at their convinence using high leverage and inside networking, Sudoku. Short-selling is just a technical term. Otherwise, how would they corner the markets for their FII masters? They are cheap pimps who live off gullible people's hard earned money by promising them the moon. In reality they throw some peanuts at them once a while, keeping all the cashewnuts for themselves all the time. When the going goes rough, well, no peanuts for the customers but my stack of cashewnuts? Hands off, baby. I'll travel business class, no matter what! And, oh, thanks for ignoring the implications of the fine-print a little below where you signed!

I also made the mistake trusting these MF goons when I came into financial markets last year. Six months later, when I got a little wiser, I asked them to return my money. They did, minus 10%!
Never again. Never again will I forget what my Grandpa used to say: the only money that is yours is what is in your possesion - in your pocket!

In the stockmarket jungle, retail traders are at the bottom of the food chain.
The institutions are the market movers and the fast run ups or fast shakeouts are normal moves they use to determine the quantity of buying/selling at any particular price level.
Only solution is to have more market participation.
SGX nifty high at 5161, closed at 5057
http://sgxniftylive.co.in/

 

[4xpipcounter]

Taurus, if that is the case, then find out what side the institutions are on and then trade with them. This way we can throw the charts and all types of analysis out the door and just trade the way they trade.
The only object in trading is to win. If that is all it takes, then let's not talk about it, let's just do it.
Actually, the fact is huge run ups and run downs are just the nature of trends. This is why we trade based on supports, resistances, TL breaks.
Unless the markets are moving, no one makes any money.
Nature of trends...Even the weather has its cyclical trends. We had a nice cooling trend, and then all of a sudden, weather breaks the TL, and we are all camping out around the air conditioning. We are now in September, and so the larger cycle is south for the weather temps, so we will have another huge rundown soon.

This is JMO, but I think more often than not people use those talking points of the institutions being in control as an excuse for their failures.

In the stockmarket jungle, retail traders are at the bottom of the food chain.
The institutions are the market movers and the fast run ups or fast shakeouts are normal moves they use to determine the quantity of buying/selling at any particular price level.
Only solution is to have more market participation.
SGX nifty high at 5161, closed at 5057
http://sgxniftylive.co.in/

 

[ajshare108]

This much of nagetivity all over :annoyed: may indicate a sharp pull bac:clapping:k