Nifty: Daily Price Analysis

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SwingKing

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Traders must always refresh their views. Mind remains clear and hence we keep emotions out of trading. Here's a picture from Canada which will certainly refresh any thoughts going along. Long live mother nature.



Image: A very unique flower which blooms only in May, June and July. I failed to register the name of this flower as at that time I was thinking about Nifty :)
 

nimish_rulz

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Traders must always refresh their views. Mind remains clear and hence we keep emotions out of trading. Here's a picture from Canada which will certainly refresh any thoughts going along. Long live mother nature.



Image: A very unique flower which blooms only in May, June and July. I failed to register the name of this flower as at that time I was thinking about Nifty :)
Name it Nifty flower. Btw is taking pictures your hobby? You are good with camera too?

On the markets China property prices fall for the first time in 15 months. Indian IIP numbers came out bad as expected indicating slow down and April which was stellar has been revised down.
 

SwingKing

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Name it Nifty flower. Btw is taking pictures your hobby? You are good with camera too?

On the markets China property prices fall for the first time in 15 months. Indian IIP numbers came out bad as expected indicating slow down and April which was stellar has been revised down.
Oh I love taking Pictures. Will be uploading more soon.

Tc
 
Beautiful pic Raunak, absolutely comforting and refreshing.... btw, try to get some of Rockies.... I wud love to see them....
Anyone on bearish side for August up to 4600 ?
I sold 5500 CE @ 58
I sold 4600 PE @ 28
I closed my upper leg in loss as market was flying and reached my stop loss.
Lower leg is still open.I am planning not to square off to save on it.
If I close @ curremt price of 13rs, further loss of 750+110(brokerage)

Any suggetions welcome.
 

nimish_rulz

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Anyone on bearish side for August up to 4600 ?
I sold 5500 CE @ 58
I sold 4600 PE @ 28
I closed my upper leg in loss as market was flying and reached my stop loss.
Lower leg is still open.I am planning not to square off to save on it.
If I close @ curremt price of 13rs, further loss of 750+110(brokerage)

Any suggetions welcome.
Well why did you close the upper leg so early? If worse come to worse you could have just bought the Nifty futures at around 5430 to cover your loss with a stop of 58 which is what the premium you ate. If market would have gone up your futures would have earned you more than the gain in the call value and that ways you would be perfectly hedged. Loss nahi hona tha. Similarly if market starts to slip you can cover you put at a particular level. You can work the levels out to be in profit or atleast not have a loss.
 
Well why did you close the upper leg so early? If worse come to worse you could have just bought the Nifty futures at around 5430 to cover your loss with a stop of 58 which is what the premium you ate. If market would have gone up your futures would have earned you more than the gain in the call value and that ways you would be perfectly hedged. Loss nahi hona tha. Similarly if market starts to slip you can cover you put at a particular level. You can work the levels out to be in profit or atleast not have a loss.
Thanks Nimish, appreciate your suggestion.

I don't understand futures as such, I also heard its risky so need to spend some months in learning/practcing before going there.
I am dealing only in options.

If you explain little bit more on this strategy that would be great. just for learning sake. I know intra day in equity but futures never dealt so far.
 

nimish_rulz

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Thanks Nimish, appreciate your suggestion.

I don't understand futures as such, I also heard its risky so need to spend some months in learning/practcing before going there.
I am dealing only in options.

If you explain little bit more on this strategy that would be great. just for learning sake. I know intra day in equity but futures never dealt so far.
Bhai futures is much less complicated than options.

You sold Option or in other words the right to someone to own the market if market goes above 5500. Futures is the present value of nifty in future time period.

Now here when you sold the market at 5500 getting a premium of Rs 58 your expectation for august is that market will close below 5558. Only then you are in profit as the value of call on expiry will be the present value of nifty on the day of expiry-the strike price or the exercise price. Now since you are naked you should always have points at which you should start protecting yourself.

You can do so by getting an opposite position in a derivative contract that is based on the same underlying security in this case that will be nifty futures.

You shorted 50 shares of Nifty at 5500 at 58 Rs
But if nifty goes above 5500 you buy nifty 50 shares and cancel your position thus getting the full premium of 58.
The only risk here is if the market goes above 5500 your buy order for future is executed and soon after that nifty tanks your future position will be in a loss and but option would be in profit. You will lose money if nifty goes below 5442 once entered long.

Hope it clears your doubts and raises some question. If it raises some questions my job is done and you should research on Internet about derivatives go on investopedia understand them if you do your questions would be answered automatically.

Also on this forum there are greats like AW10 and Linkon7 who are maestro at writing options and making money risk free go view their threads.

Happy trading.
 

saivenkat

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Any one here observed the wolfe wave forming in nifty charts. Today i was viewing charts of nifty from feb-10., i feel that market will find resistance in the zone of 5475 to 5550, where the wave 4 of wolf ends, and after which wave 5 probably should start..

The expected target of the wave 5 is around 4750...

Please let some one have a look on nifty chart and express your views, whereby correct me, if my interpretation is wrong.

Regards
Saivenkat
 

rajputz

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Any one here observed the wolfe wave forming in nifty charts. Today i was viewing charts of nifty from feb-10., i feel that market will find resistance in the zone of 5475 to 5550, where the wave 4 of wolf ends, and after which wave 5 probably should start..

The expected target of the wave 5 is around 4750...

Please let some one have a look on nifty chart and express your views, whereby correct me, if my interpretation is wrong.

Regards
Saivenkat
I think nifty is not respecting the wolf waves. if you see chart before feb you can see that wolf suggested a fall to 4200 level forming from november...Market is in channeling mode for quite a time.



Till now no wolf is respected any where...see the wolf i marked in yellow. never reached the targets...see the wolf in Blue...it never reached the targets...now from february lets see if it reached the mentioned targets.

for my interpretition it is channeling going on in nifty. It is rangebound market from octover till now. It is trying to settle down for a big move to either side...

Or am i mistaken in my interpretition some where...????
 
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