Real Trading Logs by Tamil Trader ( A new born baby )

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Hatsoff to all members who supported TT.

All people go behind who got success.. But here all people came to help TT. This is very good.

All people gave different different suggestion. In my everything is correct.

@TT: Sit 3 days and study this thread again and again.. Understand very we.. Take good decession from this list.
Now ur life in your hands.
 

marimuthu13

Well-Known Member
#92
Im sorry TT.

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Surely i will help u. u r worrying about 4L.... but After leving my sw job (6L) package i choose my career as trading. in 3 years i lost more than 30L. This is not fake. Im ready to show all with proofs. i kept all my gold in bank. i took money 6 to10 rs intrest. deafulter of all banks. now also i dont have any credit card. Still my score negative in CIBIL.
But after sitting 2 months on amibroker i got source.. and i have stopped positioal trading.. now only MCX and intraday.


All the best.. keep hope.

its similar story of mine ..but i never did mistake of quit a job..now came out of all bad debits though CIBIL score is still marginaaly low...
 

Gaur_Krishna

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#93
Hi TT,

Summary of posts that is more than what I want to say. For quick job, these are THREE solid options:

1. Private coaching classes
2. International school
3. Infy or other such BPO/KPO

Regards,
Gaur_Krishna

Taking Loan and doing trade injuries to "Wealth and Health"....be cautious..take care....
TT Dear,

Don't revenge trade. It is better to take a break from trading in my opinion. You are well informed and knowledgeable trader. You will bounce back, with time, and in my opinion, a break would be good.

All the best and regards.... Trade well and trade safe.
Please don't make it look too simple and obvious, one can see market conditions can upset any backtested or proven method, if market goes choppy in the coming 20 days one can loose even more. Personally I dislike the idea of trading according to system as nothing is certain and so is system no matter how many indicators you add. Anyways I know TT is very competent, he got fair understanding of the market....its better to create an edge by deciding when to trade and when not, rest anybody can ride the trend.
All the best.
Hi Tamil Trader,

Please bear with me on this long and honest post. I tend not to post much in traderji - just a silent follower but this one made me come out of my shell. I exactly know what you are going through but a hard look on oneself is necessary.

First and foremost, congratulate yourself for being brutally honest with yourself and taking the responses in this forum in a positive stride.

You need to ask some questions to yourself..please don't answer them here. But just answer it to yourselves.

1. Why did you sell your house to fund the trading losses? What was the necessity?

2. Why do you want to come back to trading pledging another house?

I would like to share some pointers here. They might not be coherent enough and thoughts could flow from here and there. If i have a magical syringe to infiltrate these pointers in to your brain, i would gladly do so. But, please understand that my intention is to genuinely help.

1. Taking ownership of losses - No one is responsible for our losses except us. Not the market, not the system, not the people who gave us the money to trade. We have to realize that we were wrong, we had taken too much risk, and we were employing trading methods that did not work. Period. No point in blaming outside "manipulators" of markets or bad luck; We, as traders, need to accept that we have completely and utterly made a hash of things (really no choice..this is not the luxury we can afford). In a job scenario, we can blame others and get away with it but not in trading.

2. Stop trading right away - a trader might not like to hear it but this is absolutely necessary.

Take the time to process what had happened, figure out what was done wrong, and make radical changes in the approach to markets.
Jumping from one system to another will not cut it. Optimizing the system based on last 6 month of mkt performance would not cut it. Just a small time-based break would soothe off the mind a bit..Most of the times, this should be enough to come back as a different trader.

3. Refocus and relearn - Use the time away from trading to work on other aspects of your life and career. Create alternate streams of income so that one doesn't depend on trading income alone. 'Depending on trading income' in the initial stages of trading is probably the biggest sin in trading.

Trader should try to focus on building the self-image with other aspects of life not just with trading.In doing that, he can remain opportunity-focused and not regret-focused. Please stay focused on what you could control, not on what you couldn't;

4. See the setback as an opportunity to bounce back - I am sure the loss was very painful .Make sure that you would never go through such an episode again. Try to create a new balance between trading and the rest of your life so that you would never be dependent upon trading results for your happiness and fulfillment.

5. Handling depression - a trader need to figure out how to handle depression..more so, a losing trader. It is better to handle it heads on than brushing the episode aside and continuing to lose money in a state of denial.

Depressed feelings are a normal response to loss: the loss of money, the loss of dreams. Sometimes you have to go through that loss before you can come out the other side as a different person, one who has learned from the experience. So, please stay positive.

6. Get out of need to make money mindset - If a trader gets attached to the need to trade and make money--and once his perfectionistic voice of "I should have bought there" and "I should have sold here" in hindsight kicks in --he is no longer grounded in markets. It's when those frustrations build over time, becoming self-reinforcing, that traders lose discipline and focus and eventually perish. Mental rehearsals would help in these cases.

Please have a look at my recent comment on Zerodha's blog about mental rehearsals

http://zerodha.com/z-connect/zerodh...ent-returning-incredible-returns#comment-7632

By staying physically relaxed in one's breathing and posture and by mentally rehearsing a mindset in which it is OK to miss moves--there will always be future opportunity--traders can prevent many of these train wrecks.

7. Trading too large for our account size -

Swing in the equity curve almost always is proportional to the negative effect on trader's psyche. Higher the swing, higher the negative effect on pysche and the vice-versa.

When we trade size that is too large for our account size, we subject ourselves to drastic swings in P/L, and that subjects us to drastic swings in mood. In turn, we then make trading mistakes that bring a negative expectancy to each trade, and the size eventually blows us up.

As they say, in trading, if we create drama in your returns, we'll create trauma--and that's how trading careers end.

8. Understand failure - Knowing the worst-case outcome if this trade happens to fail can reduce the fear inflicted by a previous failure from an unseen event. Black swan events aren’t common, so it’s not reasonable to fear them every time you approach a setup. Weigh the potential for loss, and if it’s outweighed by the potential for gain, the probabilities are favorable enough to participate.

9. Psychologically, it's healthy to experience defeat and then overcome it. - It strengthens you to battle back and win. If you lose the wrong way--by taking so much risk that you can't come back for the day, week, month, or year--you rob yourself of the victory that could be yours by going from red to green.

10. Make a choice to move forward - All of us have the ability to choose, whether it’s our career or our spouse or our attitude. Maybe your fear somehow gives you comfort right now, because it’s been a habit you’ve allowed. That won’t cut it though, so it’s time to change. Eventually, you either decide to get back on the right path, or you’re completely done trading. Make your choice and get on with it—and don’t look back.

Hope it helps,
Madan
Ahh good to see many members helping hands to TT.....its really good to see @least TT got a moral support in dificult times which is missing in these neutral family setup....we all pray for your dificult days will absorb in coming days......Please stop all trading related activity as of now....wish you all the best TT.......
 

Niranjanam

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#95
Dear Tamil Trader

"If you find yourself in a hole,stop digging"

The best thing you can do now is to stop trading. Do not think that you can turn around and recover the losses with a different strategy. It will never happen.You will end up losing much more.

The reason is very simple. The key success factor in trading is "Time". In fact time is a big factor in achieving success in any performance activity. You have to remain engaged in the activity long enough to get good at it.Trading is no exception.We will not develop the required knowledge,skill and behaviours required for trading success overnight.We have to survive a long learning curve before entering the earning curve.

Do you have the resources to stay in the game long enough? NO

You have to ensure that you have enough capital to trade and funds necessary to meet household expenses till your trading clicks. Supports from your family and friends are equally important.Without these safety nets in place,do not venture into full time trading again.It may end up as another misadventure.
So...Quit Trading........Quit Traderji and focus on completing your CA

All the best

Niranjanam
 

raynor

Active Member
#98
I am a newbie pls, help me my friends
Put money in stock market only the amount you can afford to loose.... if you are Married kindly donot trade or invest yourself in stockmarket.. Be a long term invester in gold and city side real estate... because once BJP comes to rule because of development the city property may appreciate faster.... IN ten years you can get 5 to 10 times appreciation of your capital....worst case put fixed deposit in bank.... NOw a days times are changed in stock market... Even Turtle traders who earned millions once are also losing money in current market scenario...if you want link for that i will post it...
 

Pradeep Narayan

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#99
Dear TT sir,

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First:
you bought the crude near 6106's: There is no logic behind this trade as it is very near to 23% retracement which is broken below and trying to take it up.... Buying must happen only after 6130's strong volume cross.
Second: Short near 6075's
you entered it right knowing the mistake of long and corrected with accurate SL of 6130's but the mistake you are doing here is keeping the target open???
What it mean's I dont really understand the word "Target is Open" not to hurt you on this question but I have seen this quote at many places... simple anser to question is why the hell you trade when you dont know the target but SL??? Rethink and think again and if you got my point clear on this logic you will become the powerful trader....

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Dear Zabeen,
Well said! The key is to know when to exit - both in good times and bad!

Dear TT
There is an old song by Kenny Rogers called The Gambler. Listen to it, it is all about exits!
I feel you should now quit trading and take a job and settle down... come back again after 5 yrs, you will be a wiser man.
 
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