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dear saint,

posting an image of cipla daily chart. it is gradually forming rising wedge- bearish indication. so we need to be careful! am i correct?

regards,

nick
Yep,some sort of a rising wedge..........more clear on the monthly charts......not looking good at all....Keeping it on a 'short' watchlist,...........CIPLA is in a Primary Downtrend,not Intermed but Primary...aka Bear Market.....meaning this rally is a relief rally of sorts within a bigger decline.

If you like to trade short as much as you like to go long,keep this on your watchlist for a short when it dumps.

Saint
 
RANBAXY opposite of CIPLA.......in a Primary Downtrend the last 3+ years,now taking out previous pivot highs on the monthly......giving indications of a change in trend and the start of a new Bull Market in Ranbaxy.

Saint
 

myvineet

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SAINT ..sorry to bother u again ....its just a humble reminder for a query sent ....hope u will find some time in ur busy schedule ...

thanx

vineet

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TRADING THE WEEKLY-----LOOK AT MONTHLY UPTREND------YOU ARE LOOKING AT WEEKLY DECLINES TO ENTER,MEANING THE MOMENT THE PREVIOUS BAR'S HIGH IS TAKEN OUT,WE ARE IN.
Dear Saint Sir,

I would be obliged if you could give some clarification on the above statement. In the current downtrend nifty has gone above the prev week's high on 3 occassions and on 2 of these above occassions it has closed below the prev week's high and continued with the downtrend. So what should the strategy be for an intermediate trader. Thanks

Sandeep
 
Yep,some sort of a rising wedge..........more clear on the monthly charts......not looking good at all....Keeping it on a 'short' watchlist,...........CIPLA is in a Primary Downtrend,not Intermed but Primary...aka Bear Market.....meaning this rally is a relief rally of sorts within a bigger decline.

If you like to trade short as much as you like to go long,keep this on your watchlist for a short when it dumps.

Saint

dear saint,

thanks a lot.

regards,

nick
 
Hi Saint,

First of all a big thanks for your pivot trading technique. I have been practicing it since last two three months with my online trading account with a quantity of just 1 share and was reversing my position with 2 shares when I am stopped out - so i was always in trade whether up or down with open position of 1 share. Since I was trying it out with a minuscle quantity it did not matter whether i was wrong or right as i wanted to learn why i am right and why i am wrong.

This system works wonderfully in trending market but gives whiplashes when I am trading shorter time frame . I tried to time my trade with few other indicators and it is working at its best.

My Query :

Set up is -

A stock is in weekly uptrend and I have entered a long trade when it has broken a pivot high on daily time frame.
I have set my stop loss on break of immediate pivot low on daily time frame.

Now -

Once I am in trade at break of pivot high - stock just inches up and retraces back the whole up move back to pivot low and just inches down and my trade stops out - at a deep loss. Some scrips have a range of 30-40 rs between pivot highs and lows and when they are forming expanding traingles - you get stopped out at both the ends. How can you avoid such a trade ?

I tried to follow my trade daily - and since was getting stopped out , i tried putting my stops on smaller time frame so that I can save on my losses - but that didnt help. It did reduce my losses , but logically i was not correct and was not knowing why should i change to shorter time frame.

Also while stock is perfectly exibiting a trend , sometimes the false opening prices use to distort my charts and even indicators and they were giving me false moves. I tried to rectify this by ignoring this price or the movement for first half hour. But than it was not helping always. Does this false opening prices signify something? Is it some kind of a signal that says - the stock should go in that direction and near that price. ( my assumption )

Also sometimes , stock remain in sideways for long time and you get stopped out at the both the points leaving nothing on table.

My understanding :confused: we can avoid this loss only by knowing that the scrip is a avoid / it is making expanding traingles ( but that I will know only after few loosing trades ) / scrip is in sideways ( that will take atleast two loosing trades ) But then how u can know this ? How to know when not to trade ?

Your help will be appreciated as always.

Thanks for everything.

- Regards
 
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lvgandhi

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I would have caught that breakout over 3945 although weekly gave no confirmation,more as a short term trade.........From here,there are only 2 things that it can do......go on to make higher highs,or it stalls here,and makes a mild pullback.

I'd look to go partial long if next week's candle can take out the high of this week......and then add later once weekly gets into pullback mode and makes higher pivot lows.


Saint
Thank you very much.
 

SGM

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SAINT ..sorry to bother u again ....its just a humble reminder for a query sent ....hope u will find some time in ur busy schedule ...

thanx

vineet

[as usual ur pm is full...so have to post here ...sorry]
Hello Vineet

Seems even SAINT's need an occasional weekend break ... :)

Cheers
Sanjay
 
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