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Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Ganesh,
The sad truth is as long as our SL hits and price move in our trade direction or markets moves just opposite of of our trade, we feel the manipulators took our money.
But when we evolve to took money from the market consistently, the manipulators had gone beyond the horizon.
Every action in the market is routed through the exchanges trading system and all can watch the operations of the so called operators.
 

columbus

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Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

It's better to stick to high volume stocks or derivatives like NIFTY Future.

Also stay out of stocks like EDUCOMP where one can easily burn his fingers... Better avoided...
Hi rahul ,

I agree with you.It is always better to trade in NIFTY futures only and also
move the way INDEX moves.Heart patients ,keep away from stocks like EDUCOMP,AKRUITY etc...
 

jdm

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Re: Your Thought On Stock Market ...........

STOCK MARKET IS A WELL PLAN AND DESIGNED CASINO THAT HAS NO FUNDAMENTALS OR LOGICS AIMED TO MAKE MONEY USING MANIPULATION ...........

GANESH :cool:
how can any well planned and well designed stuff do not have any logic or fundamentals. you only contradict yourself :confused:
 

pleaseharsh

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Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Dear Friends
My doubt and opinion is Stock Exchange,FII,DII and people like Dowood Ibrahaim makes markets to move artificially to earn big money such moves can never be natural as per my opinion ......
Your opinion and comments are highly appreciated .........
Thanks :)
Ganesh
ganesh......wt i logically think is that no individual , that to person like dawood can manipulate the stock market as a whole....yes true market mover/maker or manupilator as in this case, dawood can manupilate a few penny stocks here and there but he cannot impact the stock exchange as a whole....he can move 1 or 2 scritps but cannot run an index in his own way....its beyond his capacity.....yes he has got muscle power but too poor by money power as compared to fii's and other private instituation...
 
Re: Your Thought On Stock Market ...........

how can any well planned and well designed stuff do not have any logic or fundamentals. you only contradict yourself :confused:
ha ha ha ha Dear I stick to my words it is a phrasel form of language being used I think those who are in touch with markets have understood it well spend some more time with share markets and see are my words true....

Thanks
Ganesh :)
 
Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

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May find it interesting to go through..[/QUOTE]

Dear Nisha

After Seeing your mentioned post I am surprised it is wonderful ,awesome,great,amazing post I fully agree with you and your post without any chance of doubt or change ,once again thanks for your very important inputs to me ......


:clap::clapping::cool::thumb:

Thanks
Ganesh
 
Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Yes true..ultimately market works on....

1) DEMAND vs SUPPLY.
2) ASK PRICE Vs BID PRICE.
2) ANTICIPATION vs REALITY of what could be past/present/future "Worth of Trading Instrument"

But...

DEMAND Vs SUPPLY is engineered (like many other trading instruments) and so is ANTICIPATED and perceived REAL "Worth of Trading Instrument".

Why is it engineered..?

So that it can fluctuate in big ways such a that someone can..
1) sell direct equity at higher price and buy at lower price....
2) earn on Futs discount/premium price movements (specially near expiry)
3) earn on Options (specially near expiry for next months Options)

How is it engineered?

This is complex science and no one except those who are doing it knows it in detail..but in my close observation this is what is seen...

Price of each scrip in Nifty is moved in synchronization...to hold nifty at let say some level..one scrip (per say let say SBI,RIL,ONGC, LnT etc) is moved up and then halted there..again other is moved and halted there...then first one is moved down etc etc etc....it is like Piano with 50 keys...they keep pressing it one after other..up down down up up up down down...in such a way that each scrip and nifty results in desire levels to fulfill the main objectives as in above point...

So who is doing it?

Smart Money, Market Makers, DII, FII, Market Operators, Bull Cartel, Bear Cartel etc etc...it is all involved network...even I suspect Corporate Management of each scrip is also involved in such moves...

Options are the biggest earning instruments for them in the market

Though I am not saying each and every move is engineered but many of them are...this is my humble opinion and close observations while monitoring Nifty heat maps price and volume movements etc etc your views may be different and totally opposites...it's just my two cents !

Ultimately...

Piano is played in such a way that it psyches general retailers GREED,FEAR,DOUBT and HOPE emotions...and ultimately traps them and rest is known after that.....those who plays with the trend and over comes all these four enemies are winner and those who goes against them and makes these four guys as friends are loosers..

What can we do to b winner?

  • Discipline Discipline and Discipline - win your four enemies GREED,FEAR,DOUBT and HOPE....bit them with Trade plan with reason for entry in the trade, Strick SL, money and risk management etc etc.
  • Trade the trend never ever try to trade what you think..trade what tune market is playing...

rgds, Nisha
 

SavantGarde

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Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Hi Ganesh,

Do You Want To Make Money From The Stock Market Or You Want To Do A Thesis For Phd.

If You Want Make Money, Then Just Remember If Big Players Are Moving The Market or Scrip, Then Find A System That Will Follow Them, That Way You Will Always RemainOn The Right Side Of The Market.


Happy & Safe Trading

SavantGarde
 

sudoku1

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Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Dear Friends

Today I noticed a move in Reliance and stock Markets ,it was stock market and share prices moved up without much of downtrend till 12:05pm and from 12 till 2:30 PM they fall almost one sidedly .......

Example Reliance moved up in one direction almost till 12:05 PM upto 1343 and after 12:05PM it falled to 1294 in almost one direction...........

This made me to think stock markets are made to move artificially and are not naturally moved .....

Who moves or manipulated stock markets in artificial way or stock market and share prices moves in natural way .............

My doubt and opinion is Stock Exchange,FII,DII and people like Dowood Ibrahaim makes markets to move artificially to earn big money such moves can never be natural as per my opinion ......

Your opinion and comments are highly appreciated .........

Thanks :)
Ganesh
stop worrinng......be happing.....;)
http://traderplanet.com/index.php?page=newsletter&section=synergistic&id=102#article-458
 
Today I Brought Few ACC @550 ,To Get Dividend Due On 24 March

Dear Friends

Today I brough few shares of ACC @ 550 to get dividend or high price due on 24th March 2009....

My question to all is should I hold ACC to get dividend last date 24-03-09 or should I sell them in obligation since stock might pullback ...........

Thanks
Ganesh :)
 
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