What is the full form of BSE Index -> HC,CG,CD ?

[actuaryinmaking]

Re: Shocking Up Move On Friday 13th March 2009

Dear Nisha

Thanks for your important feedback ......infact bears were badly hit shorting stocks and finding no way to exit on Friday 13th 2009 ......

Even I only dare to short at 2700 levels and luckily nifty came back to 2694/86 twice and given me oppurtunity to exit booking 10 rupeese profit lol ........

But once it sustained above 2700 I was stunned ohhh my GOD what is this ........no one was buying at 2575 and at 2700 everyone is buying lol

Hope as you even agree that downtrend has not yes stopped and Indian markets will see atleast 2400 Nifty and 7000 sebnsex if not below .........


Thanks
Ganesh

Ganesh,

Further.....firstly, Market is mainly moved up and down by Market Movers (FII, DII etc big boys) and retail or individual traders/investors have very minimal effect in it...

..secondly and most importantly...they do not move the price based on just (low/high) prices or fundamentals(co, eps, results) or sometime even economical scenarios but mainly sentimental based....they use the sentiments in such a way that they can extract maximum benefits out of that...when there are more and more sellers (oversold) or market becomes extremely bearish they buy at low price and move the sentiments on upside, trap the retailers and then sell them at higher price and vice versa...

Ultimate aim for Market Makers is to earn money out of the market almost everyday by moving it up and down bidirectionally (most of the time senselessly) in such a way that to trap more and more retailers (or even rival big boy camps) for obvious reasons.

There is known fact that 95% of retailers keep loosing money..because often a time they are late comers in the game and pay the price of getting trapped at too bottom or too high levels (Dec 2007 high of 21000 and Oct 2008 low of 8000 are best evidences)...Market is just like a casino whether we accept it or not..every move is calculated and not in retailers hands...all we can do is..if market does the cha-cha we do it too (ie follow the trend) !

 

[lonsharim]

Re: Shocking Up Move On Friday 13th March 2009

Ganesh,

Further.....firstly, Market is mainly moved up and down by Market Movers (FII, DII etc big boys) and retail or individual traders/investors have very minimal effect in it...

..secondly and most importantly...they do not move the price based on just (low/high) prices or fundamentals(co, eps, results) or sometime even economical scenarios but mainly sentimental based....they use the sentiments in such a way that they can extract maximum benefits out of that...when there are more and more sellers (oversold) or market becomes extremely bearish they buy at low price and move the sentiments on upside, trap the retailers and then sell them at higher price and vice versa...

Ultimate aim for Market Makers is to earn money out of the market almost everyday by moving it up and down bidirectionally (most of the time senselessly) in such a way that to trap more and more retailers (or even rival big boy camps) for obvious reasons.

There is known fact that 95% of retailers keep loosing money..because often a time they are late comers in the game and pay the price of getting trapped at too bottom or too high levels (Dec 2007 high of 21000 and Oct 2008 low of 8000 are best evidences)...Market is just like a casino whether we accept it or not..every move is calculated and not in retailers hands...all we can do is..if market does the cha-cha we do it too (ie follow the trend) !

Very interesting observation. I am sure there is a lot of merit in your thought process. I personally find it very intimidating to be a retailer in any kind of market and prefer to invest through MFs as a long term objective.

I was reading up some of the interviews in the past few days and there were a few relevant points there as well.
1. There was some positive news from the financial sector in the U.S
2. We are currently by and large dependent on global sentiments which have witnessed an upswing in the last few days.
3. What we are witnessing is a pullback rally. I didn't even know the term lol, lots of learning for me.
4. Today's loss is a result of people booking their profits.

 

[Ganesh543]

Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Dear Friends

Today I noticed a move in Reliance and stock Markets ,it was stock market and share prices moved up without much of downtrend till 12:05pm and from 12 till 2:30 PM they fall almost one sidedly .......

Example Reliance moved up in one direction almost till 12:05 PM upto 1343 and after 12:05PM it falled to 1294 in almost one direction...........

This made me to think stock markets are made to move artificially and are not naturally moved .....

Who moves or manipulated stock markets in artificial way or stock market and share prices moves in natural way .............

My doubt and opinion is Stock Exchange,FII,DII and people like Dowood Ibrahaim makes markets to move artificially to earn big money such moves can never be natural as per my opinion ......

Your opinion and comments are highly appreciated .........

Thanks
Ganesh

 

[Ganesh543]

Re: Shocking Up Move On Friday 13th March 2009

Ganesh,

Further.....firstly, Market is mainly moved up and down by Market Movers (FII, DII etc big boys) and retail or individual traders/investors have very minimal effect in it...

..secondly and most importantly...they do not move the price based on just (low/high) prices or fundamentals(co, eps, results) or sometime even economical scenarios but mainly sentimental based....they use the sentiments in such a way that they can extract maximum benefits out of that...when there are more and more sellers (oversold) or market becomes extremely bearish they buy at low price and move the sentiments on upside, trap the retailers and then sell them at higher price and vice versa...

Ultimate aim for Market Makers is to earn money out of the market almost everyday by moving it up and down bidirectionally (most of the time senselessly) in such a way that to trap more and more retailers (or even rival big boy camps) for obvious reasons.

There is known fact that 95% of retailers keep loosing money..because often a time they are late comers in the game and pay the price of getting trapped at too bottom or too high levels (Dec 2007 high of 21000 and Oct 2008 low of 8000 are best evidences)...Market is just like a casino whether we accept it or not..every move is calculated and not in retailers hands...all we can do is..if market does the cha-cha we do it too (ie follow the trend) !

Your post is very important to me and I have even copied and pasted your reply to a text file lol :clapping::thumb:

Yes Share markets are casinos which targets to capture retail investors and key to share market in my opionion is share market always move against trend and news in artificial way by FII ,DII ,Exchanges to earn money I will always remember you reply it is very important view for me ........

Today I shorted Reliance at 1323 it moved to 1343 one way and fall back to 1294 almost one way I brought it back on loss at 1334.50 failing to anticipate the casino/market ,I learned today is follow the trend as you said and stock markets are purely manipulated Casino to trap retail investor it has nothing to do with fundamental or investment or any moral values being claimed ha ha ha ha lol

Thanks once again for your

 

[kailash chaturvedi]

Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

ya I too agree with u.u may be right but sometimes it seems natural .cause panic & fear of loss works on mankind.

 

[Ganesh543]

Your Thought On Stock Market ...........

STOCK MARKET IS A WELL PLAN AND DESIGNED CASINO THAT HAS NO FUNDAMENTALS OR LOGICS AIMED TO MAKE MONEY USING MANIPULATION ...........

GANESH

 

[actuaryinmaking]

Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

my doubt and opinion is stock exchange,fii,dii and people like dowood ibrahaim makes markets to move artificially to earn big money such moves can never be natural as per my opinion ......

Ganesh

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[actuaryinmaking]

Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

http://www.traderji.com/equities/26208-market-operators-do-they-exist-who-actually-runs-show.html

May find it interesting to go through..

 

[columbus]

Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

Markets are HIGHLY manipulated.Otherwise how can you expect a stock like
EDSERVE closed at 138/- on FIRST day and languishing at 34/- hardly after
10 days.

 

[rahul_mail]

Re: Stock Markets & Share Prices Are Manipulated Or they move Naturally

It's better to stick to high volume stocks or derivatives like NIFTY Future.

Also stay out of stocks like EDUCOMP where one can easily burn his fingers... Better avoided...