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Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

Right down the reason why you entered the trade
Right down you stop loss
Right down why you got out of the trade

Now analyze your decisions:
Did you follow your rules to enter in this trade?
Did you follow your rules to get out of this trade?
Did you close your trade out panic, or did you follow your rules?

it is all in our minds

Bulli

Yes I entered trade for valid reasons since it has very strong support at 540 yesterday when Nifty fall by say 25 points ACC had not broken the 540 support so I entered with 100 percent confidence

I exited since stock moved from 536-539 range even when Nifty moved up by 18 points I thought even after Nifty moving up the stock is stagnant I immediately quitted the stock booking least loss + brokerageloss + STT loss

But it taught me a lesson that no support is strong and no resistance is strong but it is the manipulators thinking purely that moves the stock and we need to catch that

Thanks :)
Ganesh
 
Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

This thing happens to all who loose the trades.
Every body (looser) thinks the same way
its only 4 points description:-
1) After I bought prices went down.
2) After I sold prices went up.
3) After my short mkt rallied upside.
4) After covering short mkt went down.

Its very common things of looser which are faced by max loosers including me.
If you are following speculative trading strategy then...

1) Always buy at Bounce Back with volume from Strong Support (or bit riskier sell at breaking of such support with high volumes) and Sell at Bounce back with volume from strong resistance (or bit riskier Buy at breaking of such Resistance with high volumes) (Support/Resistance should be legitimate and 4-6 weeks old only not more then that in present market scenario)...look at Chart and derive support and resistances... do not never ever buy/sell in between support/resistances prices if you are speculative trader...do not buy scrips if you think it is cheaper now without knowing if it has a support at that level and vice versa for selling it....otherwise follow the trend trending...

- Adjust your SL if bounce back or break outs are negated with same cumulative volumes.

2) Look out for opportunities.....train your mind to understand that not every second of everyday you can trade any stock just because your mind thinks so...you have to have a solid opportunity for trading..just 50% chance of winning is actually loosing and no better then tossing a gambling coin...so do not gamble...I repeat..Look out for opportunities..there are 100s of opportunities there in the market..find it out do some real fruitfull hard work..!!

3) Write down Targets and Stop Losses (you can use Camarilla, Floor pivots, Fibonnaci numbers or Average True Price to do this...google it and learn this concepts)

3) Do not over trade (trade one or two lots only) - after calculating Stop Loss..calculate how much you can loose in worst case scenario (that is difference between your Buying/Selling prices Vs Stop Loss)....never ever allow your mind to loose beyond your SL...dont higher or lower your SLs and do not hold the positions in Hope...if it may not go your way you may loose the entire account...

5) Have patience...no one can earn money in Share Market very next minutes...dont jump out of the ship because there is a little storm...unless it is a big storm and your wise SL is hit..be in the ship..but have rightful SL and hold it close to your mind...

6) Win against..

  • GREED (when your targets are achieved you still want to hold the position little more time thinking I will get more profit);
  • FEAR (you have done your home work with ENRTY/EXIT levels but you do not enter the position at right time and even when yous SL is not hit you think now it's gone case let me square off and save few )
  • DOUBT (is it really going to go my way or it seems it is going against me let me square off now so that i do not incur more losses)
  • HOPE (when your SL is hit or target is hit you are still in trade or vice versa)

Ultimately Market (read Market Operators) plays with our intelligence..more we think it should be like this..more it tricks you...the guys running the show are having 15-20 years professional experience in the field..so keep that in mind...

Know your bettlefield as much as you can..have your weapons ready before entrying the bettlefield...train your mind to use your weapons to the perfection..and most importantly develope winning attitude..do not throw your money in coing tossing gambling (that is trades with less then 50% chances..reread point no 1-6 Answers are there)! :thumb:
 
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Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

If you are following speculative trading strategy then...

1) Always buy at Strong Support (or bit riskier sell at breaking of such support with high volumes) and Sell at strong resistance (or bit riskier Buy at breaking of such Resistance with high volumes) (Support/Resistance should be legitimate and 4-6 weeks old only not more then that in present market scenario)...look at Chart and derive support and resistances... do not never ever buy/sell in between support/resistances prices if you are speculative trader...do not buy scrips if you think it is cheaper now without knowing if it has a support at that level and vice versa for selling it....otherwise follow the trend trending...

2) Look out for opportunities.....train your mind to understand that not every second of everyday you can trade any stock just because your mind thinks so...you have to have a solid opportunity for trading..just 50% chance of winning is actually loosing and no better then tossing a gambling coin...so do not gamble...I repeat..Look out for opportunities..there are 100s of opportunities there in the market..find it out do some real fruitfull hard work..!!

3) Write down Targets and Stop Losses (you can use Camarilla, Floor pivots, Fibonnaci numbers or Average True Price to do this...google it and learn this concepts)

3) Do not over trade (trade one or two lots only) - after calculating Stop Loss..calculate how much you can loose in worst case scenario (that is difference between your Buying/Selling prices Vs Stop Loss)....never ever allow your mind to loose beyond your SL...dont higher or lower your SLs and do not hold the positions in Hope...if it may not go your way you may loose the entire account...

5) Have patience...no one can earn money in Share Market very next minutes...dont jump out of the ship because there is a little storm...unless it is a big storm and your wise SL is hit..be in the ship..but have rightful SL and hold it close to your mind...

6) Win against..

  • GREED (when your targets are achieved you still want to hold the position little more time thinking I will get more profit);
  • FEAR (you have done your home work with ENRTY/EXIT levels but you do not enter the position at right time and even when yous SL is not hit you think now it's gone case let me square off and save few )
  • DOUBT (is it really going to go my way or it seems it is going against me let me square off now so that i do not incur more losses)
  • HOPE (when your SL is hit or target is hit you are still in trade or vice versa)

Ultimately Market (read Market Operators) plays with our intelligence..more we think it should be like this..more it tricks you...the guys running the show are having 15-20 years professional experience in the field..so keep that in mind...

Know your bettlefield as much as you can..have your weapons ready before entrying the bettlefield...train your mind to use your weapons to the perfection..and most importantly develope winning attitude..do not throw your money in coing tossing gambling (that is trades with less then 50% chances..reread point no 1-6 Answers are there)! :thumb:
wow wonderful thanks Ganesh :clapping::clap::cool:
 

SavantGarde

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Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

Hi Ganesh,

If A Particular Pattern Or A Setup Is A Reason For Entries & If That Pattern Gives You 10 Losses Out Of 14, Then I Suggest You Stop Trading That Setup.

If You Have 10 Different Setups For Entries & Exit All Follow The Same Fate As Above, Then You Should Stop Trading, Cause Then There Are Serious Psychological Issues That Need To Be Taken Care Of First.


Happy & Safe Trading

SavantGarde
 
Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

Hi Ganesh,

If A Particular Pattern Or A Setup Is A Reason For Entries & If That Pattern Gives You 10 Losses Out Of 14, Then I Suggest You Stop Trading That Setup.

If You Have 10 Different Setups For Entries & Exit All Follow The Same Fate As Above, Then You Should Stop Trading, Cause Then There Are Serious Psychological Issues That Need To Be Taken Care Of First.


Happy & Safe Trading

SavantGarde
Awesome add-on Savant ji...never thought of this as I tried three systems and my current system's winning ratio is 7.5 out of 10 (worst was 5.5) !
 

SavantGarde

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Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

Hi Nisha,

Hmmm.....So Does That Mean Probably You Never Went Through The 'Trading Organizer' I Sent To You, Cause Lots Of Things Are Incorporated In There...Young Lady.

When Trades Are Put On Paper It Tends To Show Up In A Very Different
Perspective, How Should I Put It....'Unbiased'


Happy & Safe Trading

SavantGarde

Awesome add-on Savant ji...never thought of this as I tried three systems and my current system's winning ratio is 7.5 out of 10 (worst was 5.5) !
 
Re: Does It Happen With You Also .............

Hi Nisha,

Hmmm.....So Does That Mean Probably You Never Went Through The 'Trading Organizer' I Sent To You, Cause Lots Of Things Are Incorporated In There...Young Lady.

When Trades Are Put On Paper It Tends To Show Up In A Very Different
Perspective, How Should I Put It....'Unbiased'


Happy & Safe Trading

SavantGarde
Thanks Savanji...that spreadsheet looked awesome but honestly didnt get a time to use it....had lot to observe, unlearn, learn and relearn...as market and methods to trades seems like ocean..with very little time I get from my studies...I have been busy and happily fine tuning and simplifying my existing systems on more on profiting sides...but as soon as I get some time am planning to get into organizing my trades more methodologically and start using other tools to do so ! :thumb:
 
Re: Your Thought On Stock Market ...........

Stock market is not for economists or statisticians....
Common man can only anticipate that he may make money here!
Business world changes very fast and their strategies too...and their stocks too....

Stick around and be a heuristic, i am sure that you will make some gains.
-:)

STOCK MARKET IS A WELL PLAN AND DESIGNED CASINO THAT HAS NO FUNDAMENTALS OR LOGICS AIMED TO MAKE MONEY USING MANIPULATION ...........

GANESH :cool:
 
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