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Zerodha

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Dear Zerodha,

I have traded 20 lots of MININIFTY (20 times buy and 20 times sell) from 26-09-2011 to 07-10-2011. For this I was charged brokerage of 2687.42 . Which works out to 134.37 for each lot, which is more than ICICI which is charging 106.91.

0.01 % brokerage or 20 Rs brokerage aside , Are you people not supposed to be atleast lower than the highest paid brokerage in the industry:confused:

Regards:)
Hi msa,

Assuming nifty at 5000, 20 buys and 20 sells equals to generating a turnover of 40lks...

Previously for these 20 buys and 20 sells, you would have paid a brokerage of 400 + 400 that is Rs 800... From now onwards with the new plan, you would pay 200 + 200= Rs 400 ....

With icici assuming 0.05% brokerage, you would have paid for 40lks of turnover : Rs 2000...

STT would be same with both of us, for 40lks around Rs 350 for STT...Transaction charge would be around 125 with them and around 220 with us...

Because you trade mininifty and because you probably do only 1 lot a day, stmp duty component with us would have been the difference...For 40lks because you have done the turnover on different days, you would have paid 400 as stamp duty(0.01% with max of Rs 50 per day) and you would have probably paid 80 as stamp duty with them(Rs 200 per crore)... But the stamp duty difference will be fixed very soon as we have been informed by the exchange......Karnataka stampduty is a boon for higher volume traders, but can be a pain if you are doing only 1 lot a day of turnover...

But you definitely would be paying much lesser with us...
 
Hi msa,

Assuming nifty at 5000, 20 buys and 20 sells equals to generating a turnover of 40lks...

Previously for these 20 buys and 20 sells, you would have paid a brokerage of 400 + 400 that is Rs 800... From now onwards with the new plan, you would pay 200 + 200= Rs 400 ....

With icici assuming 0.05% brokerage, you would have paid for 40lks of turnover : Rs 2000...

STT would be same with both of us, for 40lks around Rs 350 for STT...Transaction charge would be around 125 with them and around 220 with us...

Because you trade mininifty and because you probably do only 1 lot a day, stmp duty component with us would have been the difference...For 40lks because you have done the turnover on different days, you would have paid 400 as stamp duty(0.01% with max of Rs 50 per day) and you would have probably paid 80 as stamp duty with them(Rs 200 per crore)... But the stamp duty difference will be fixed very soon as we have been informed by the exchange......Karnataka stampduty is a boon for higher volume traders, but can be a pain if you are doing only 1 lot a day of turnover...

But you definitely would be paying much lesser with us...
But that comes to - 800 + 220 + 400 + 150 (1420 * 10.30%) + 350 = 1920 :confused: Nowhere close to the figure posted of 2687.42 :confused: Am I missing something? Please clarify :)

But the stamp duty difference will be fixed very soon as we have been informed by the exchange......Karnataka stampduty is a boon for higher volume traders, but can be a pain if you are doing only 1 lot a day of turnover...
What will be the fix? If you don't mind me asking.......:)

EDIT : I'm glad that you didn't try to minimize Stamp Duty & took it as Rs.400 in the above example....... there may've been a temptation to show it even lower.........appreciate your honesty :)
 

Zerodha

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But that comes to - 800 + 220 + 400 + 150 (1420 * 10.30%) + 350 = 1920 :confused: Nowhere close to the figure posted of 2687.42 :confused: Am I missing something? Please clarify :)



What will be the fix? If you don't mind me asking.......:)

EDIT : I'm glad that you didn't try to minimize Stamp Duty & took it as Rs.400 in the above example....... there may've been a temptation to show it even lower.........appreciate your honesty :)
Newbie,

What we have been told right now is that it will be a uniform stamp duty of Rs 300/cr... Presently the broker has to pay the respective state governments, once the change is through, the exchange will collect it from the brokers (similar to STT) and pass it back to respective governments...

@msa, the number has to be what I have mentioned, if you can shoot an email to [email protected], with your client id, I can double check your ledger.... Cheers...
 
Re: rkg

may i know the service response from rkg and how many days they taken for account opening.
RKG offers Rs 9 per lot but network may be clogged since it is the account used by high volume traders.Very few brokers seem to offer a flat rate,so it is a good option. Just ensure it is there in your city. I have to check myself.
From the website I can see that is has the renowned blogger and financial analyst Deepak Shenoy on its management board so it is dependable.
If you plan to trade Futures and options even a single lot per day the savings will be there.
 

hc9001

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Brokerage of TRADING only 1 LOT MINIFTY with Zerodha.

According to my calculation (using Zerodha brokerage calculator)
With present brokerage structure (0.01% or Rs 20 whatever is lower)
When nifty @ 5000
For trading 1 LOT MINIFTY
Total Brokerage is Rs 72.20 [previously it was about Rs 22 higher/Lot]
i.e, now breakeven 3.6 pt for trading 1 lot MINIFTY.

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Note: I trade with 5 or 10 lot of Minifty(or in multiples of 5) instead of 2 or 4 lot of Nifty only bcoz of averaging winning trade/losing trade & partial profit/loss booking.
Currently Minifty brokerage is very important for me untill I m able to trade with NIFTY with similar volume.

Pls confirm me if my calculation is wrong (I think it is right).
[I m planning to switch in to Zerodha soon from RK Global(lower brokerage too) for trading with faster NSE Now than ODIN. But brokerage is also important for a trader. I think difference is decreasing for Minifty traders also with zerodha's user friendly latest brokerage structure.]

Regards.
 
Re: Brokerage of TRADING only 1 LOT MINIFTY with Zerodha.

According to my calculation (using Zerodha brokerage calculator)
With present brokerage structure (0.01% or Rs 20 whatever is lower)
When nifty @ 5000
For trading 1 LOT MINIFTY
Total Brokerage is Rs 72.20 [previously it was about Rs 22 higher/Lot]
i.e, now breakeven 3.6 pt for trading 1 lot MINIFTY.

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Note: I trade with 5 or 10 lot of Minifty(or in multiples of 5) instead of 2 or 4 lot of Nifty only bcoz of averaging winning trade/losing trade & partial profit/loss booking.
Currently Minifty brokerage is very important for me untill I m able to trade with NIFTY with similar volume.

Pls confirm me if my calculation is wrong (I think it is right).
[I m planning to switch in to Zerodha soon from RK Global(lower brokerage too) for trading with faster NSE Now than ODIN. But brokerage is also important for a trader. I think difference is decreasing for Minifty traders also with zerodha's user friendly latest brokerage structure.]

Regards.
1 lot of NIFTY buy + sell (NIFTY 5000)

Brokerage - 10 + 10
Transaction Charges - 10.8
Stamp Duty - 20
SEBI Charges - 0.20
Service Tax & Education Cess - 5.253
STT - 17

Total = 73.253
Break-even = 73.253/20 = (around about) 3.75-4 points

5 lots of buy + sell in SINGLE-ORDERS in intraday (NIFTY 5000)

Brokerage - 20 + 20
Transaction Charges - 54
Stamp Duty - 50
SEBI Charges - 1
Service Tax + Education Cess - ~14.935
STT - 85

TOTAL = 245
Break-even = 245/5 = 49/20 = (around about) 2.5 points


For every marginal increase of 5 lots per bulk-order of buy + sell (since you trade 5, 10, 15....)
Transaction Charges - 54
SEBI Charges - 1
Service Tax & Education Cess - 5.665
STT - 85

Marginal Increase - 145.665
Break-even = 245 + 145 = 390/10 = 39/20 = (around about) 2 points

Break-even = 245 + 290 = 535/15 = 36/20 = .....

Break-even = 245 + 435 = 680/20 = 34/20 = .....
 
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