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Vertigo_1985

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Here a little, but heavy add to the above post:

Declassified Documents: Obama Ordered CIA To Train ISIS: http://yournewswire.com/declassified-documents-obama-ordered-cia-to-train-isis/

US, allies saw ISIS as strategic asset against Syria: DIA documents: http://times.altervista.org/us-allies-saw-isis-strategic-asset-syria-dia-documents/

Guess this and the previous post starts to clear thoughts why IS was never a topic in any western newspaper until they started to act against the west.
Its high time ppl of western countries realize what their govn is doing, if they dont then it wont be long before war comes to their home.
 
Its high time ppl of western countries realize what their govn is doing, if they dont then it wont be long before war comes to their home.
Dear friend

Did you know this before I posted it? :D and if so, why did you not post it ;)

Let's go further back:

The man behind who supported the idea to provoke the Russians in there mind to go to Afghanistan: Zbigniew Brzezinski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Context of '1973-1979: US Starts to Provide Support to Islamists Opposing the Soviets in Afghanistan': http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_202706
 
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DSM

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There is a saying, feed the snake, one day it will come back to bite you. Big powers (US, UK, France, Germany, Russia, China) have always interfered in the matters of other countries for their own self interest disregarding the consequences of their actions. Taliban was first supported by America as they were fighting their enemies the communist Russia (then) And in order to over throw Saddam, Assad, etc, the big powers stated supporting questionable groups in the Middle East, not learning the lessons of history.

Have to bring out, that we too, under the Late Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and the political leaders from Tamil Nadu were guilty of supporting the Tamil rebels (LTTE) in Sri Lanka. The consequences of this action was paid for dearly, when LTTE turned against us, and we lost over 1,200 soldiers of IPKF - Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka, and PM Rajiv Gandhi too lost his life.

Incidentally, an hour back there was a program on CNN IBN, of Indian govt. (indirectly) supporting the Mahadeshi who are opposing the new constitution in Nepal.


I guess what is shown in the following short video is done from most governments all over the world, including India government. They want to influence the street peoples mind with what is in short shown in the video:

Great explanation by Eric Draitser: The Operation Mockingbird is Still Alive and Well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5feP3dlHEU

Operation Mockingbird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
 
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Vertigo_1985

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Dear friend

Did you know this before I posted it? :D and if so, why did you not post it ;)

Let's go further back:

The man behind who supported the idea to provoke the Russians in there mind to go to Afghanistan: Zbigniew Brzezinski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski

Context of '1973-1979: US Starts to Provide Support to Islamists Opposing the Soviets in Afghanistan': http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_202706
Yes dear, anyone with a little bit of understanding of history and politics would understand what game has been played all along and dont forget which neighbor we have and who is its big brother ....we too have lost blood because of USA.
 
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Vertigo_1985

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Dr. Daniele Ganser: "USA has a serious violence problem!": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKhaXmy62ys
A member here just few days back posted i stay in the first of the first world and the first thought that came to my mind what misery they have brought to this world to become that first of the first.. we can go few centuries back and look at what horrible things the europeans did to the asians, africans or the native americans, the consequence of which we are seeing even today and will be there for dunno how many centuries to come.. and what horrible things they did to themselves through worldwars ...
Govn is a mirror of the people, if USA is doing such horrible things then its citizens are equally responsible but thing with ppl is that they dont wake up till they get a shock so unless war comes to their own turf or they lose their monetary power they will continue with the violence policy.
 
A member here just few days back posted i stay in the first of the first world and the first thought that came to my mind what misery they have brought to this world to become that first of the first.. we can go few centuries back and look at what horrible things the europeans did to the asians, africans or the native americans, the consequence of which we are seeing even today and will be there for dunno how many centuries to come.. and what horrible things they did to themselves through worldwars ...
Govn is a mirror of the people, if USA is doing such horrible things then its citizens are equally responsible but thing with ppl is that they dont wake up till they get a shock so unless war comes to their own turf or they lose their monetary power they will continue with the violence policy.
No. Absolute wrong what you post dear friend.

Most of any countries population go to work day by day if they have jobs or try at least to make some money in any way. In the evening they come back and are tired. They just want to relax and enjoy there lives with there families, if they have one. Others join there clubs or want to meet there friends.

They do not have any will or interest to hurt other people per se. They just want to live there lives and that's it. But the controlled media and the religion leaders in many cases try to lure them into a stage where they start to feel hate against others, they before not hate as they did not feel or think they have to be feared, but just the manipulation has catched them to start to think and value any information in that way.

So posting that all citizens of US are responsible for what the government does is an absolute wrong mind dear friends. It is a generalization which puts each and any person under one hat because they are from there or this country. Such thoughts and generalization is dangerous and most of the time a reason to hate others because of such arguments. Very dangerous. By the way: The government even lies to them about what they in fact do (NSA for example or the killing from the president in Chile in 1973 organized from the CIA and so on).

It is like saying: All Indian people are responsible for any thing the India government does against any other country. No way.

All the answers are in the previous posts. If you argue the way you did, it is pure black and withe thinking and not good.

Take care / Dan :)

Any way: Last post from my side for today on this topic.
 
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Vertigo_1985

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No. Absolute wrong what you post dear friend.

Most of any countries population go to work day by day if they have jobs or try at least to make some money in any way. In the evening they come back and are tired. They just want to relax and enjoy there lives with there families, if they have one. Others join there clubs or want to meet there friends.

They do not have any will or interest to hurt other people per se. They just want to live there lives and that's it. But the controlled media and the religion leaders in many cases try to lure them into a stage where they start to feel hate against others, they before not hate as they did not feel or think they have to be feared, but just the manipulation has catched them to start to think and value any information in that way.

So posting that all citizens of US are responsible for what the government does is an absolute wrong mind of you and even if we are friends, I have to think if I am going to report your post, as it is wrong.

It is like saying: All Indian people are responsible for any thing the India government does against any other country. No way.

All the answers are in the previous posts and kindly do not come up again with such not in dept out worked post you just did.

Take care / Dan :)

Any way: Last post from my side for today on this topic.
For the current state of india ..yes we including me are responsible.
People choose the govn, its for ppl dat usa govn goes on targeting resources rich places or strategically important places, ppl act like ostrich thinking they are so clean n high... truth is the govn does the dirty work that our common man wont even want to think about but if its not done then how will he get the comforts he enjoys?
And if enough ppl dont want it why dont they force govn to change policy of violance ? If since 1945 usa is the country which has bombed most countries then what is the common man dng to stop it?? They wont bcoz they want a comfortable life n if orher ppl gave to pay price for it rgeb be it, ignoring is better then truth in such cases.