Trading Strategies Using Technical Analysis

Which date should the meet be held?

  • February 27th 2011

    Votes: 19 59.4%
  • March 6th 2011

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • March 13th 2011

    Votes: 5 15.6%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

SwingKing

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hi raunak (rite agian hpefully),

can u explain what the indicator price volume trend(pvt) conveys mathematically. read up on the net but not excatly what i want to know. and how does it differ from MFI?

If u have the time....

thanks
Biggles,

Here we go!

MFI

Basics - This is basically a Momentum Indicator which indicates the Money flowing in and money flowing out. Typical way to use this is to look for divergence between Money flowing in and price and by seeing when markets are reaching top and bottom (80 & 30 levels). Very similar to how you would use the RSI.

Calculation - There are basically three stages of calculation done to determine the MFI

a) First we calculate the Typical price which is equivalent to (High + Close + low)/3
b) Second we calculate the Money flow, which is equivalent to Typical Price*Volume. In this case if today's Typical price is greater than yesterdays typical price, then it is considered as Positive Money flow. Else vice versa.
c) We typically get two Variables in this. The positive money flow and the negative money flow. If we take the ratio of both, we then get the Money Ratio.
d) Finally we calculate the MFI which is equivalent to 100/(1+Money Ratio).


PVT

Basics - PVT essentially is a cumulative total of volume which mainly depends on the "%change" of the closing price. This is not a momentum indicator, but it is more like "price" which essentially has no limitations on the upside and downside. Though many consider it to be similar to OBV, mathematically they differ a lot. While OBV adds all volume of the day if price close up and subtracts all volume of day when prices close down, PVT only adds and subtracts portion of volume depending on the extend of movement.

Lets say volume yesterday was 100. Today prices closed up by 10% with volume of 20. Obv would add the volume of 20 to yesterday's volume of 100. SO total volume would be 120. Whereas PVT would add (0.01*20) 2 to yesterday's volume of 100. Basically it is weighing the magnitude of price move. This is precisely why PVT is more accurate and important.

Calculation - PVT is essentially calculated by multiplying day's volume with the price change and finally adding this to cumulative.

(%Change in Price*Volume) + Yesterday's PVT

PVT & MFI

a) MFI is more a momentum indicator and hence has its inherent draw backs like any other momentum indicator. That is, can remain in oversold and overbought regions for many days and hence cannot aid in proper analysis. PVT is more like a price indicator. Visual inspection and inference is more easier and accurate.

b) MFI also does not take into account the price weightage. This is a serious draw back. A day with 5% move with volumes is more significant than a day with 1% movement with volumes. PVT corrects this.

c) In terms of value addition, PVT adds far more value as it is easy to analyze and more meaningful when it comes to market analysis. It does not contain the calculation bias which usual momentum indicator do. That is, on slight change of volume, the reading on MFI can jump from 40-60 without any meaningful interpretation. Similar to the problem faced by RSI.

Hence overall, amongst all PVT stands out the most.

Tc
 
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Really nice quotes here, sir:)
Would like to add ,if you dont mind.!:eek:
I may be wrong , but AFAIK

POORNA means "complete" or near by to "ABSOLUTE"
When you substract something from POORNA ,the remainder is still POORNA(complete)
When you add something to POORNA,its still remins POORNA.
Even if you break POORNA ,both the parts obtained are POORNA only!
It means though GOD derived everthing from hinself HE is still COMPLETE,
& whatever was derived is also COMPLETE!
Thats why GOD's another name is "POORNA-PURUSHA"
T&R

Raunak,
Sorry for the irrelevant post in this thread.:down:
Will take care next time.!!:)
I follow your thread regularly,your way of analysing the markets is unique.
Thank you for such a wonderful thread!
 

gauharjk

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Raunak Sir,

with these new Radia tapes out today, and now we have confirmation that our country has been sold out by the elites who run it as family business, how would the stock markets react in the short term?

See http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?268618 for some of the corporate lobbyist Radia's phone calls intercepted by Income Tax guys.

What is your opinion on this? Its not technical or fundamental impact on the stock market... but more like psychological effect. The mainstream media channels are quiet about it... but for how long?

Also, China might increase interest rates today, because their inflation is out of control.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-...pressure-for-wen-to-raise-interest-rates.html
 

SwingKing

Well-Known Member
Raunak Sir,

with these new Radia tapes out today, and now we have confirmation that our country has been sold out by the elites who run it as family business, how would the stock markets react in the short term?

What is your opinion on this? Its not technical or fundamental impact on the stock market... but more like psychological effect. The mainstream media channels are quiet about it... but for how long?

Also, China might increase interest rates today, because their inflation is out of control.
Gauhar,

I don't know how the markets will react to the tapes. We'll have to wait and watch to see that. Regarding China's decision, if they hike interest rate, it could have a short term impact on commodities. But still we'll have to see that. No point in predicting. Let's see what happens tomorrow.

Tc
 

SwingKing

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Raunak Sir,I just saw Lupin chart.The 10 DEC low(415) is at 61.8% and close(453) is at38.2%.I have taken up move range from (02/09/10) to (02/12/10).So should we consider weakness?
Sanjay,

A glance at Lupin chart will tell you that it is far from being weak. Its still in a very strong uptrend. If you have it, stick with it.

Tc
 

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