Going With The 60min Flow!!!

[Sharestar]

These are not Saints words - nor his language. Any seniors please confirm if anybody is in live touch with him. Atleast not the ps thing.

-Regards

The 5 min rule was designed as a place to turn around if a gap up/dn goes against the preexisting trade.......not as a place to turn things around if the gap goes in the favour.In the 5min trades,yes,short the first bar low and so on so forth.....but not in the flow trades.Goes against the very spirit of the word "Flow"


Fault is mineut too many different types of of trades with pivots in this forum with different sets of rules,etc...........And although have listed most rules,have failed to communicate regards gaps.Actually have put it up many times,but unable to get through.........

I never thought I would say this......I have failed,...... I give up!(hands in air,shoulders shrugged,resigned).

Saint

ps:Think this method is even more dangerous now than the high risk it already is........Many things being bandied about as the "Saint Method".Then seniors and friends,who themselves cannot understand,put it down as something useless,........one of many friends in this forum have been irritated about the pivot method giving signals later than many indicators.

All I can tell to all my friends and detractors is:I am still laughing all the way to the bank..........But from now on,am gonna do it silently.Silently because even the people who are benefitted too(except a few) are jumping the rules and will only burn themselves soon.Ah,and to my detractors who have been declaring that this method is too easy and subjective and failed in testing,etc etc.....and that it gives signals too late.....well,I have not the energy or will to fight back.For you all who declare this method as total hogwash......indeed it is.Those who have understood what I was trying to communicate,ask ur doubts via PM.

wishing you all the very best ......

 

[milkyblack]

The 5 min rule was designed as a place to turn around if a gap up/dn goes against the preexisting trade.......not as a place to turn things around if the gap goes in the favour.In the 5min trades,yes,short the first bar low and so on so forth.....but not in the flow trades.Goes against the very spirit of the word "Flow"


Fault is mineut too many different types of of trades with pivots in this forum with different sets of rules,etc...........And although have listed most rules,have failed to communicate regards gaps.Actually have put it up many times,but unable to get through.........

I never thought I would say this......I have failed,...... I give up!(hands in air,shoulders shrugged,resigned).

Saint

ps:Think this method is even more dangerous now than the high risk it already is........Many things being bandied about as the "Saint Method".Then seniors and friends,who themselves cannot understand,put it down as something useless,........one of many friends in this forum have been irritated about the pivot method giving signals later than many indicators.

All I can tell to all my friends and detractors is:I am still laughing all the way to the bank..........But from now on,am gonna do it silently.Silently because even the people who are benefitted too(except a few) are jumping the rules and will only burn themselves soon.Ah,and to my detractors who have been declaring that this method is too easy and subjective and failed in testing,etc etc.....and that it gives signals too late.....well,I have not the energy or will to fight back.For you all who declare this method as total hogwash......indeed it is.Those who have understood what I was trying to communicate,ask ur doubts via PM.

wishing you all the very best ......

Saint,

No courage or words to post anything after reading this post !
First of all I apologize in this forum for not understanding the 5 min rule properly... and posted on the forum to go short.... which was against the flow of the trend! I really missed that part of the flow! Otherwise I have no intentions at all to play with your system without discussing and getting a consent from you!

Many posts back you have mentioned Satya and me do "slightly" different from the actual rules of the 60 min.... to that post I asked you to kindly explain the things that we do differently as never wanted to do it in that way and wanted to rectify mistakes!

Many times I have said it as Saint's method.... and let me tell you Saint... I am going to do so throughout! If I learn something from someone... I would call it his/her method... the RISK involved in following that DANGEROUS method is completely MINE.... So no where you should think that you are imparting something Dangerous....

What I learned about the 60 min trade its because of you.... So should I not call it your method? Or when I post the levels for NF I should call it as...

Hello all,

MY LEVELS FOR NF for so so date is this.....

I am just doing a clerical job! Trying to find out and locate the pivots not using my brains! But using what you have taught!

It is not that you were not able to deliver what you wanted to .... it is me who has not been able to keep up to your mark!

I apologize for posting MY LEVELS over here!

I request you to come back and share your knowledge for the benefit of all bright traders and students of market over here I would not interfere anymore with the levels to trade with!

Would be a silent student of this thread!

Best Regards

 

[Satyen]

Saint,

No courage or words to post anything after reading this post !
First of all I apologize in this forum for not understanding the 5 min rule properly... and posted on the forum to go short.... which was against the flow of the trend! I really missed that part of the flow! Otherwise I have no intentions at all to play with your system without discussing and getting a consent from you!

Many posts back you have mentioned Satya and me do "slightly" different from the actual rules of the 60 min.... to that post I asked you to kindly explain the things that we do differently as never wanted to do it in that way and wanted to rectify mistakes!

Many times I have said it as Saint's method.... and let me tell you Saint... I am going to do so throughout! If I learn something from someone... I would call it his/her method... the RISK involved in following that DANGEROUS method is completely MINE.... So no where you should think that you are imparting something Dangerous....

What I learned about the 60 min trade its because of you.... So should I not call it your method? Or when I post the levels for NF I should call it as...

Hello all,

MY LEVELS FOR NF for so so date is this.....

I am just doing a clerical job! Trying to find out and locate the pivots not using my brains! But using what you have taught!

It is not that you were not able to deliver what you wanted to .... it is me who has not been able to keep up to your mark!

I apologize for posting MY LEVELS over here!

I request you to come back and share your knowledge for the benefit of all bright traders and students of market over here I would not interfere anymore with the levels to trade with!

Would be a silent student of this thread!

Best Regards

Hey milky what happened friend no you are a crusial member of nifty trade journal I know Saint will forgive us for the mistake ............

I should have posted that this GAP is not against our position ......hmmm my mistake was doing other things .....

Lets hope Saint will come back sent him 2 PM did not get any reply


Regards
Satya

 

[Satyen]

Saint we are trying to finalise some rules like we conclude that no 2 bar method ..... like GAPS will be taken consideartion which are against are position ...........

Now yet to conclude about after GAP against our position which should be our stop loss ,,, previus pivot ,, or days high ...

even some day back we faced new situation GAP break out but did not cross first 5 min high etc etc .....

there is lot of things to learn from you

please come back

 

[AMITBE]

The 5 min rule was designed as a place to turn around if a gap up/dn goes against the preexisting trade.......not as a place to turn things around if the gap goes in the favour.In the 5min trades,yes,short the first bar low and so on so forth.....but not in the flow trades.Goes against the very spirit of the word "Flow"


Fault is mineut too many different types of of trades with pivots in this forum with different sets of rules,etc...........And although have listed most rules,have failed to communicate regards gaps.Actually have put it up many times,but unable to get through.........

I never thought I would say this......I have failed,...... I give up!(hands in air,shoulders shrugged,resigned).

Saint

ps:Think this method is even more dangerous now than the high risk it already is........Many things being bandied about as the "Saint Method".Then seniors and friends,who themselves cannot understand,put it down as something useless,........one of many friends in this forum have been irritated about the pivot method giving signals later than many indicators.

All I can tell to all my friends and detractors is:I am still laughing all the way to the bank..........But from now on,am gonna do it silently.Silently because even the people who are benefitted too(except a few) are jumping the rules and will only burn themselves soon.Ah,and to my detractors who have been declaring that this method is too easy and subjective and failed in testing,etc etc.....and that it gives signals too late.....well,I have not the energy or will to fight back.For you all who declare this method as total hogwash......indeed it is.Those who have understood what I was trying to communicate,ask ur doubts via PM.

wishing you all the very best ......

Hey there Saint,

It may take an eternity till all the coins drop in place...those perceptions of major/minor pivots, gaps/visual gaps, two bar/stops, trailing or otherwise. It can often take forever for most people.
For those who claim to sync right in, if they really do exist, they must be the chosen few, so glory unto them.

And for those whoever those are, who flash and hide their clever wares, their cryptic little codes and indicators designed to make their hair bristle moments before the big move comes:
Well guys, you have different kinds of heads, and whatever you do must be very cutting edge stuff and all.
But the 60 min (or 45 or 30 or 15 or whatever) trader has consistently made piles of money. Theres no confidential magic formula there, or any secret demon worship, and theres nothing hush hush about it whatever. That PH or PL or HH or LL, whatever it is, its clear and shining for all to see and make use of, and sure as shooting it will make you money, just use it properly.
He needs no foreboding nor an omen or an occult sign to form on the chart to tell him when to jump in or tell him which way moneys flowing.
And this 60 min trader needs no colour coded indicators or abstract and abstrusely worded charts and tables to flaunt the anatomies of his trades and winning ways.
What matters here is, show us the money. Or is it put your money where your mouth is. And if you cant, then go into your little huddles and whisper your little codes and keep it all there.
And it does seem very very obvious that this trader wants to be left alone to his brilliant simplicity by you guys. Do respect that please.

Saint, to you my friend, in saying your systems are simple is by no means calling them anything less than extraordinary. Youve never shown us the need for nifty little indicators to fight and win against the best, day after day after day.
Yet day after day you have shown us how you moved your positions and why and how at the end of a trade you laughed your way to the bank with exactly how many winning points jingling in your pockets.
But its not all about money is it. Its about sharing your wisdom and knowledge, after years of sweat and diligent practice. For this selflessness alone, this forum will always hold you in the highest esteem.
Teaching is not an easy place to begin with. Mostly all the lucky ones who stumble upon your threads of learning are either quite raw, or are already enslaved to bad habits. You will need to give them more timethey will come along.
As a suggestion, perhaps a few of these guys who are active here could go back to the very beginning of this thread and put down all the various rules etc and send it to you for review/additions/corrections, and once you are quite satisfied, let them post it loud and clear.
Then let go their hand. Distance yourself. Be around to answer queries when you like. If anyone has obviously not done his homework right and has asked a flatfooted question, someone here will chuck the sucker out.
Do continue the great work, Saint.

 

[skarpio]

Saint -- you are missing the forest for the trees.

 

[lvgandhi]

Saint we are trying to finalise some rules like we conclude that no 2 bar method ..... like GAPS will be taken consideartion which are against are position ...........

Now yet to conclude about after GAP against our position which should be our stop loss ,,, previus pivot ,, or days high ...

even some day back we faced new situation GAP break out but did not cross first 5 min high etc etc .....

there is lot of things to learn from you

please come back

Dear Satya, Milky
I think Saint is not against you. I have observed him for a few years. I am learning not only trading but also his patience. You are his real students in this thread.
In one of my previous posts, I have asked you to put in a place as sticky so that confusion is avoided and every one follows that.
I pray God Saint comes back soon and gives his consent to your effort.

 

[man4urheart]

Currently Stoploss = 4386 for LONG
and
Position should be reversed to Short on break of 4386...right?

 

[uasish]

Hey there Saint,

It may take an eternity till all the coins drop in place...those perceptions of major/minor pivots, gaps/visual gaps, two bar/stops, trailing or otherwise. It can often take forever for most people.
For those who claim to sync right in, if they really do exist, they must be the chosen few, so glory unto them.

And for those whoever those are, who flash and hide their clever wares, their cryptic little codes and indicators designed to make their hair bristle moments before the big move comes:
Well guys, you have different kinds of heads, and whatever you do must be very cutting edge stuff and all.
But the 60 min (or 45 or 30 or 15 or whatever) trader has consistently made piles of money. There’s no confidential magic formula there, or any secret demon worship, and there’s nothing hush hush about it whatever. That PH or PL or HH or LL, whatever it is, it’s clear and shining for all to see and make use of, and sure as shooting it will make you money, just use it properly.
He needs no foreboding nor an omen or an occult sign to form on the chart to tell him when to jump in or tell him which way money’s flowing.
And this 60 min trader needs no colour coded indicators or abstract and abstrusely worded charts and tables to flaunt the anatomies of his trades and winning ways.
What matters here is, show us the money. Or is it put your money where your mouth is. And if you can’t, then go into your little huddles and whisper your little codes and keep it all there.
And it does seem very very obvious that this trader wants to be left alone to his brilliant simplicity by you guys. Do respect that please.

Saint, to you my friend, in saying your systems are simple is by no means calling them anything less than extraordinary. You’ve never shown us the need for nifty little indicators to fight and win against the best, day after day after day.
Yet day after day you have shown us how you moved your positions and why and how at the end of a trade you laughed your way to the bank with exactly how many winning points jingling in your pockets.
But it’s not all about money is it. It’s about sharing your wisdom and knowledge, after years of sweat and diligent practice. For this selflessness alone, this forum will always hold you in the highest esteem.
Teaching is not an easy place to begin with. Mostly all the lucky ones who stumble upon your threads of learning are either quite raw, or are already enslaved to bad habits. You will need to give them more time…they will come along.
As a suggestion, perhaps a few of these guys who are active here could go back to the very beginning of this thread and put down all the various rules etc and send it to you for review/additions/corrections, and once you are quite satisfied, let them post it loud and clear.
Then let go their hand. Distance yourself. Be around to answer queries when you like. If anyone has obviously not done his homework right and has asked a flatfooted question, someone here will chuck the sucker out.
Do continue the great work, Saint.

Saint,
After a very Long time this friend of your's post is found once again in the Forum,as eloquent & lucid as he always was.
He is standing by your Teachings,
Amitbee has suggested a simple way to go to the 1st Page,

" to the very beginning of this thread and put down all the various rules etc and send it to you for review/additions/corrections, and once you are quite satisfied, let them post it loud and clear. "


As your student ,i will do that personally & suggest others to do the same.

Regards

Asish

 

[aad]

Dear Saint,

It is very difficult to make simple working things.... and you know that you have done it.... time and again.

Regarding critics : It is the same Sun that hardens the clay and melts the ice as well... So, life is as you think. So.....please, please don't get into this trap of -ve mindset. Critics are bound to be there all along... They will WIN if you give up even when THEY are wrong...

People may have arguments about working of your methods but nobody can doubt your selfless attitude. It requires lots of guts to do what you have done.

Ernestly requesting you to start posting as usual.

Best regards,

Abhay